Unissued Polish M-44 what's it worth ?
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I picked up an un-issued Polish for $220 about five months ago from a local deal (with dog collar sling, oil bottle, stripper clip pouches and cleaning kit). I have seen them at gun shows from $250 and up without the extra kit.
Actually it's Spencer'd and not for sale. The best improvement I ever did, and my favourite rifle since I developed a super dooper load.
Thanks
The price seems ok at $225. It is not in the wrap but is covered in gloop. I'm so impresed with mine the way it is I just have to have another.
Thanks for the imput everyone.
Never saw one in wrap. Back in the late 80s when they first appeared from Century in Montreal they were in crates.
Care to share that load???
Certainly happydude.
123grn Vmax or pulled 7.62X39 bullets
56grns of BL-C(2)
OAL 2.874"
Shoots minute of angle, is extreemly flat, extreemly loud, and produces a beautifull orange fireball. Shoulder padding is a must have. Primers show no signs of exessive pressure.
I am pretty sure that they were meant to be fired with the bayonet on. I read a bit of history on the Russian M-44 ( I have one) and thats what it said . So you can shoot 7.63X39mm bullets out of it ? I also heard that you can reload your shells with .303 bullets!
I read something similar a while back. If I remember right the article said they were meant to be fired with the bayonet extended. I don't shoot mine with the bayonet extended just attatched. I had thought that the heafty piece of steel on the end of the floating barrel would have been detremental to the accuracy but the opposite was the case. Looks cooler with bayonet fixed anyway
That opinion seems to have a common source - what guys say on the Internet. I consider it a myth, or at best conjecture. I can see that POA would change with bayonet folded or open, but since the usual, most commonly used position is folded (you're not supposed to run around with the bayonet extended), it seems like the opposite should be true. Show me some original literature (e.g. an Army Manual) that supports the open bayonet theory, or even someone who has actually tested the theory with Milsurp ammo and more than one gun, and I might lean the other way.
Actually Andy, the common position was extended, not folded. Since the 1890's, Russian troops were issued their rifles with the bayonet attached. No bayonet sheath was provided (except in Austria and Finaland, for captured rifles).
The only Mosins issued without extended bayonets as the "norm" were the various artillery and cavalry carbines.
In the VAST majority of combat photos, the M44 is depicted with the bayonet fixed.
I think it's a "Russian wave" kind of mentality.
And no, I'm not quoting the internet. These sentiments are also expressed in the Mosin books by Terrence Lapin, Doug bowser and Karl-Heinz Wrobel.
The only Mosins issued without extended bayonets as the "norm" were the various artillery and cavalry carbines.
In the VAST majority of combat photos, the M44 is depicted with the bayonet fixed.
I think it's a "Russian wave" kind of mentality.
And no, I'm not quoting the internet. These sentiments are also expressed in the Mosin books by Terrence Lapin, Doug bowser and Karl-Heinz Wrobel.
Ok - I can buy that. Does it also apply to the M91/30, or was it just the guys with carbines who were supposed to operate "bayonets affixed"? Nobody ever suggests that loads for the M91/30 should be developed with a bayonet in place.
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Yes, it applies to the M91/30 as well.
I'm not suggesting WE should shoot that way, or even that it has enough of an impact to worry about it. I'm only pointing out that most Russians carried Mosins with bayonets extended
Personally, I sight mine in with the bayonets left OFF (or folded as applicable).
I'm not suggesting WE should shoot that way, or even that it has enough of an impact to worry about it. I'm only pointing out that most Russians carried Mosins with bayonets extended
Personally, I sight mine in with the bayonets left OFF (or folded as applicable).
