++UPDATE Dec 22/ 21++ Kel Tec CMR-30 with Dlask Arms Barrel now NON-RESTRICTED !

This is also something I am very interested in now in regards to that 30 day time window that only applies to the firearms comming from you already assembled ? Also have you recieved word from the rcmp on your classifaction change for your personal rifle its ridiculous that there giving the run around like this is the same for the ps90 barrels ?
 
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Joefreedom said:
This is also something I am very interested in now in regards to that 30 day time window that only applies to the firearms comming from you already assembled ? Also have you recieved word from the rcmp on your classifaction change for your personal rifle its ridiculous that there giving the run around like this is the same for the ps90 barrels ?
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The issue with the PS90 barrels is due to lack of barrel blanks not reclassification issues.
 
Just a quick update. 25x barrels were sent out for CNC profiling and should be back in a week or two. Then chambering and out again to blue. The distributor has the donor rifles in stock so it will be a pretty quick turn around. I will personally be taking mine to Kamloops to go out shooting now that the snow has melted. I will let you know the results, should be a tack driver. A really FUN tack driver ( ;

Our best guess for price is that these will be between $1000-$1100. That will include the donor gun, new N/R barrel and barrel installation. If you choose to change out the barrel yourself then deduct $100.

We WILL NOT be verifying these so to save us all some grief so please do not even ask. Since the SFSS are being non co-operative in issuing a N/R FRT I want verifiers from St. John's to Victoria to bombard them with forms asking to change the status to N/R.

F em, let them eat cake and take a remedial maths class so they can learn to add 16 + 3.75.
 
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Dlask Arms said:
Just a quick update. 25x barrels were sent out for CNC profiling and should be back in a week or two. Then chambering and out again to blue. The distributor has the donor rifles in stock so it will be a pretty quick turn around. I will personally be taking mine to Kamloops to go out shooting now that the snow has melted. I will let you know the results, should be a tack driver. A really FUN tack driver ( ;

Our best guess for price is that these will be between $1000-$1100. That will include the donor gun, new N/R barrel and barrel installation. If you choose to change out the barrel yourself then deduct $100.

We WILL NOT be verifying these so to save us all some grief so please do not even ask. Since the SFSS are being non co-operative in issuing a N/R FRT I want verifiers from St. John's to Victoria to bombard them with forms asking to change the status to N/R.

F em, let them eat cake and take a remedial maths class so they can learn to add 16 + 3.75.
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So will you be selling the current models as restricted then? And the people have to get it swapped over to Nr with a verifier?
 
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So will you be selling the current models as restricted then? And the people have to get it swapped over to Nr with a verifier?
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Correct. Regardless if we install the N/R barrel it will still be transferred to the buyer as a Restricted firearm. You will be responsible for having it verified as N/R by someone of your choice and we suggest you make this arrangement BEFORE purchasing the rifle from us to save grief and frustration if you cannot find someone local to you that is willing to do this. According to the law you have 30 days after making a change to a firearm to have it verified and report the changes made.
 
Dlask Arms said:
Correct. Regardless if we install the N/R barrel it will still be transferred to the buyer as a Restricted firearm. You will be responsible for having it verified as N/R by someone of your choice and we suggest you make this arrangement BEFORE purchasing the rifle from us to save grief and frustration if you cannot find someone local to you that is willing to do this. According to the law you have 30 days after making a change to a firearm to have it verified and report the changes made.
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Damn that’s unfortunate, kinda defeats the purpose of buying a full NR rifle other than the install labor.
 
Leadbeard said:
Damn that’s unfortunate, kinda defeats the purpose of buying a full NR rifle other than the install labor.
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Exactly. If DLASK is installing them why not just get them all verified in a batch since theyre already in the industry and have the means to do dozens at a time.
 
Leadbeard said:
Damn that’s unfortunate, kinda defeats the purpose of buying a full NR rifle other than the install labor.
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Incorrect, I think you're missing the point of the exercise. The main issue is that the RCMP refuse to issue and FRT for this N/R rifle as a child of the Restricted rifle. They are insisting on having us send a sample in to have them do a full inspection which was quoted as taking 14-16 months. This is pure, unadulterated crap. I explained that the ONLY thing we did to the rifle was manufacture a new, longer barrel that takes the OAL to just past the 26" threshold to be N/R. I took clear pictures proving the measurements against the original and still they insist on wasting everyone's time, money and energy to re-inspect a gun they have already inspected. Thus my remedial maths class quip since all they have to do is add the original 16" barrel length with 3.75" which is how much longer the new barrel is. So easy I actually feel stupid explaining it. This is an accepted method of conversion, we do it all the time to rifles like the H&K USC and pistols like the P-08 Luger etc. They just simply refuse because they have the political backing from Mr. Man-Child to stone wall with impunity and no ombudsman to look into this nonsense. (My guess is they have a slightly more nefarious reason but I will keep that to myself.)

Unfortunately for them the FRT is not law and if a licensed verifier looks at the rifle and files the form to class it as N/R per the Criminal Code of Canada and the Firearms Act then too bad for them, it doesn't NEED an FRT. However, like the true gov't worker bees they are if there is no procedure to do something outside the box ,like this, then they stumble and mumble and say they cannot change the status because there is no FRT. The system needs and FRT number they scream ! What do I do they yell ! If you explain that there does not need to be an FRT as it is not law.....silence, while the hamster in their mind runs in a circle - does not compute, does not compute...

As long as a copy of the Verifier's Report is kept with the rifle to prove it has been filed then I am quite happy to treat the rifle as N/R and have fun with it as such. This is by NO MEANS legal advice, it is simply how I see it. At the end of the day, as long as it is N/R per all of the CC and FA rules - then that's what it is, period.

If people across the country start sending in Verifier's Report then it becomes the power of numbers. This is why I want people to find a local person that is a licensed Verifier to change the status. If one person (Me) does all the guns then they could refute it possibly and cause trouble. But if many different people from many different cities across the country file the exact same N/R report, well, that's something they can't ignore. And it helps lend credence to just how convoluted and sh***ty our system is.
 
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Sort of. Barrels back from turning. Once the B&T run is done (this week) these are next.

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Oh man, I wish I was better at saving money. Between getting a new pointer pup and second vehicle, I feel like I'm probably gonna miss out on these. Part of me kinda hopes the project gets pushed back until I got the funds... Are the barrels themselves still projected to cost ~$300? Figure I might as well snag one and worry about the rest later.
 
Dlask Arms said:
Incorrect, I think you're missing the point of the exercise. The main issue is that the RCMP refuse to issue and FRT for this N/R rifle as a child of the Restricted rifle. They are insisting on having us send a sample in to have them do a full inspection which was quoted as taking 14-16 months. This is pure, unadulterated crap. I explained that the ONLY thing we did to the rifle was manufacture a new, longer barrel that takes the OAL to just past the 26" threshold to be N/R. I took clear pictures proving the measurements against the original and still they insist on wasting everyone's time, money and energy to re-inspect a gun they have already inspected. Thus my remedial maths class quip since all they have to do is add the original 16" barrel length with 3.75" which is how much longer the new barrel is. So easy I actually feel stupid explaining it. This is an accepted method of conversion, we do it all the time to rifles like the H&K USC and pistols like the P-08 Luger etc. They just simply refuse because they have the political backing from Mr. Man-Child to stone wall with impunity and no ombudsman to look into this nonsense. (My guess is they have a slightly more nefarious reason but I will keep that to myself.)

Unfortunately for them the FRT is not law and if a licensed verifier looks at the rifle and files the form to class it as N/R per the Criminal Code of Canada and the Firearms Act then too bad for them, it doesn't NEED an FRT. However, like the true gov't worker bees they are if there is no procedure to do something outside the box ,like this, then they stumble and mumble and say they cannot change the status because there is no FRT. The system needs and FRT number they scream ! What do I do they yell ! If you explain that there does not need to be an FRT as it is not law.....silence, while the hamster in their mind runs in a circle - does not compute, does not compute...

As long as a copy of the Verifier's Report is kept with the rifle to prove it has been filed then I am quite happy to treat the rifle as N/R and have fun with it as such. This is by NO MEANS legal advice, it is simply how I see it. At the end of the day, as long as it is N/R per all of the CC and FA rules - then that's what it is, period.

If people across the country start sending in Verifier's Report then it becomes the power of numbers. This is why I want people to find a local person that is a licensed Verifier to change the status. If one person (Me) does all the guns then they could refute it possibly and cause trouble. But if many different people from many different cities across the country file the exact same N/R report, well, that's something they can't ignore. And it helps lend credence to just how convoluted and sh***ty our system is.
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Is verification a legal requirement? If the gun meets the definition of a non restricted firearm, how could one be charged with having a restricted? Wouldn't a call to the cfc to report changes be all that's required?
 
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