survival 22

I agree 100% with what Wrong Way said.

The couple of AR-7's (original Charter Arms) that we have are all pretty good. We only use high velocity ammo and can consistently hit popcans at 25m offhand. Some ammo does jam, just find some it likes, polish the feed lips on the mags, polish the ramp and chamber and it becomes very reliable.

Best part is it packs into a very small and light package with all the parts in one place. It was never meant to be a target rifle, a gun that gets used everyday, or a "one size fits all" gun. It is a compact, survival or backpack gun.
 
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I owned an AR7, and never liked it.Low quality throughout.A slingshot is a better survival tool.If I was to buy another survival rifle, it would be a Marlin Papoose.Much better accuracy and reliability.If you can afford it, a Browning auto .22, is probably the best of the bunch.Take down easy to 2 pieces, and is more accurate, than the other takedowns.
 
oooooh Browning auto .22 now thats worth realy thinking about, you realy get value for your money I didn't know that they come appart like that, will have to think a little harder.

thanks again for all your help.
 
Better yet take an old cooey bolt action..thread a 1022 barrel and the receiver and ditch the retaining pins..bang!,cheap take-down rifle
 
steve5412 said:
Thinking of getting a Henry AR7 survival rifle for my wilderness ATV rides and would like to know if they are any good of if there is somthing else that is better/smaler/tougher.
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I use a 10/22 with a Krinker Plinker kit. It fits in one of the pouches on the rear rack of my ATV. Works great.
 
I had a charter arms ar7 a few years back and it was an ok little rifle.Not the most accurate but good enough for bunnies and grouse in the bush.I had a problem with mine jamming.The cause turned out to be the fireing pin was peened over by the hammer,wich wouldn't allow the next round to feed from the mag.Quick fix with a file.As a survival rifle on a snowmobile,boat ,plane or whatever i think it to be a good choice.Stored away in its butstock it takes up little room and since most of the rifle is alum. or plastic you can neglect it and not find a rusty gun when you need it.The only draw back is there is no place in the stock to store ammo(besides the mag.)
 
A lot of guys don't care for the AR-7. I found it was pretty much OK with most ammo...if this is a survival rifle you need to put 500 rounds through it from new anyway, so you can find the ammo that works reliably. They are also a little finicky about lubrication and they don't like being stored for years without cleaning.
 
I'm going to throw in my vote for the M6 Scout, too. I love mine. I'm not a particularly great shot, and I can peg centerfire brass at 25 yds offhand with the .22 barrel.
 
I have an Armalite AR-7. It's actually quite a bit of fun to plink with. I have had no real problems with mine. It is a bit toylike but it is light and packs up compactly and I don't worry about rust (too much). It is accurate enough for what it was meant for. I find the design a bit finicky and does not reflect any quality of manufacturing.

I also have a Stainless Springfield M6 Scout which is much better made. It is heavier but equally compact. It is more accurate as well. It is also a ton of fun to shoot. For the prices they are going for nowadays, you'd be better off with a Ruger or Marlin Papoose.
 
A different direction but a Rossi or H&R/NEF single...Take down capabilities..
Or..Similiar to Ronin's idea, a Cooey boltaction, modify the bolt that holds the action in the stock to be finger takedown, drill some holes in buttstock for ammo storage and paint the stock with bedliner. You would have a package less than 23" long, simple and CHEAP.
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Bawnogue said:
A different direction but a Rossi or H&R/NEF single...Take down capabilities..
Or..Similiar to Ronin's idea, a Cooey boltaction, modify the bolt that holds the action in the stock to be finger takedown, drill some holes in buttstock for ammo storage and paint the stock with bedliner. You would have a package less than 23" long, simple and CHEAP.
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My oldest son completed is Hunter Apprentice last fall so I bought him an NEF Versa-Pack for Christmas. It consists of a .410 barrel, 22" long and full-choked, as well as a .22 LR barrel, 20" long and with rifle sights. I picked it up at Epps for $169+ tax and has proven to be more than worth the cash expended.

I replaced the rear sight on the .22 barrel with a Williams aperture rear, which also necessitated changing the front sight as the one that came on it was too short. Fortunately the factory has one for the UltraLight .22 Hornet that fills the bill easily and cheaply. I then put on a Survivor buttstock and forend from Choate and Krylon'd it with flat black for a bit of weather-resistance. The buttstock contains a nylon bag with a Bic lighter, a small CRKT lock-blade folder, a 5 meter flat pack of duct tape, 30 rounds of CCI Velocitor and 5 rounds of RWS .410 slug.

The trees around here dropped their leaves in November and all the rabbits turned white at the same time; unfortunately for them there was no snow that stayed more than 2 days until 11 Jan, and the boy and I laid the hurt on them every day of the Christmas break - final score, us = 38 rabbits, rabbits = nothing but #6 shot and 40 gr lead medication.

The whole thing zips up in a padded Cordura case and weights about 7 pounds total with 100 rds of .22 and 25 rds of .410 3" + what's in the buttstock...


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