Leaving Alberta for Ontario

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So, I'm packing up the family early in '08 and moving to Ontario to pursue a business opportunity. Leaving Alberta, a province with huge areas of crown land and an abundance of varied wildlife (moose, elk, mulies, whitetail, pronghorn... ) WHAT THE HECK AM I THINKING?

Anyway, what do I need to hunt in Ontario? Is my Alberta hunting license transferable, or do I have to challenge a hunter safety test? And when are draw deadlines? And are there "general" whitetail deer and moose tags, or is it all lottery? And who can suggest productive Wildlife Management Units or whatever they are called out there to hunt? (I am looking at settling in the K-W/Cambridge area... but am definitely not limited to SW Ontario as far as where I'm willing to travel.) And is there a welcoming range in the K-W area?

Any advice is welcomed.

Cheers,
A.
 
Just did the same thing this summer. I would go on line for draw deadlines. They will transfer your hunting license without a safety test (99% sure but check on that ahead of time with MNR) & bring your card and everthing you have to prove your a registered hunter in Alberta (to be on the safe side). Here's the kicker & I wish I knew about this one ahead of time: YOU HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT OF ONTARIO FOR AT LEAST 6 MONTHS. This little piece of info I did not know & screwed my whole hunting season for 07. As soon as you get here have dated proof of the day you started living here. A drivers license, a bill with your name & address etc. Once you loose your Alberta address your no longer a resident there... But here they have to collect tax from you for 6 months before they deem you worthy to go hunting as a resident. You don't want to spend $100 on a non resident small game permit just to go hunting with family like I did.
 
Oh by the way...The hunting sucks compared to hunting in Alberta. I Know, I lived here before lived there and now I live here...again...You get the idea?!?!
 
why?????
WHYYY?????
Good luck to you and your family, hope the move is safe, and the business opportunity fruitful!
 
I think as long as you are not going to the HOG TOWN, northern Ont is way nicer than MOST of Alberta, the flat ####ty barren mud hole lake parts anyway, which just happens to be 75% of this place. The crown land and any lakes worth while fishing are way the hell outta town. Everything south of the 57 parallel is bloody private property that most owners won't let you hunt so whats the point.

ONT has the shield with beautiful mixed forest and crystal clear deep lakes. But you DON'T WANT TO BE ANYWHERE NEAR TO... OR SOUTH OF THE 401 Otherwise stay here.
 
K98ACTION said:
I think as long as you are not going to the HOG TOWN, northern Ont is way nicer than MOST of Alberta, the flat s**tty barren mud hole lake parts anyway, which just happens to be 75% of this place. The crown land and any lakes worth while fishing are way the hell outta town. Everything south of the 57 parallel is bloody private property that most owners won't let you hunt so whats the point.

ONT has the shield with beautiful mixed forest and crystal clear deep lakes. But you DON'T WANT TO BE ANYWHERE NEAR TO... OR SOUTH OF THE 401 Otherwise stay here.
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I live by the lake, south of the 401 in the Rouge Valley area of Toronto. It's a beautiful area.

During hunting season, many farmers permit hunters on their property provided they are asked ahead of time.

Next time before you shoot your mouth off about Toronto, ask one of us that lives here first. I've lived in Calgary and much prefer Banff.
 
Here is a hunting/fishing site to check out. Ontario Trophy bucks Forum. There is a lot of useful info. I just registered on there a couple of weeks ago and am still finding my way around.
 
K98ACTION said:
ONT has the shield with beautiful mixed forest and crystal clear deep lakes. But you DON'T WANT TO BE ANYWHERE NEAR TO... OR SOUTH OF THE 401 Otherwise stay here.
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There's a lot of ####ing land south of the 401. Grouping it all together would be like me saying that everything east of the rockies is Saskatchewan, and everything west is BC.

I live south of the 401 in Prince Edward County (not only a great hunting location, but a Conserrvative stronghold). I hunt all year on my property (Turkeys, deer, grouse, partridge, rabbits, coyotes, crows). I spend a lot of time hunting North of #7, but it doesn't even come close to the type of diversity I enjoy here.

There are lots of great hunting locations in Ontario, some you have to work for, some are in your backyard. Just take the time to choose where your backyard is.

I'm sure there's a few guys here that'd take you out and give you the tour.
 
If you're moving to the K-W area, it's tough to get permission to hunt properties close to home, due to the landowners either posting their land or just not allowing permission due to problems with hunters in the past, or because they have had the same guys/groups hunting the property for the past 20 years.

I live in Waterloo and drive an hour to either one of my hunting properties. But, just like I have for the past two years, I'll make the rounds again early in the new year to see if there are any openings closer to home.

Lots of deer in Southern Ontario and the turkey population has exploded.

If you bow hunt, arhery tags are plentiful. There are usually two controlled hunt weeks in WMUs in Southern Ontario. Some are for shotgun/muzzleloader and some have muzzleloader only restrictions for one of the weeks. In order to hunt with the rifle...you have to go North. The closest area is around Owen Sound and it's like WWIII up there with the number of 'city hunters' that make the trek, but don't want to travel far.

The gun club in Guelph is the biggest facility available, but there are other clubs in Galt and an indoor club in Waterloo, the Colby Gun Club.

Best of luck with your move...if I was you, I'd be staying out there...but if there's work to be had here...then welcome.
 
droid1963 said:
So, I'm packing up the family early in '08 and moving to Ontario to pursue a business opportunity. Leaving Alberta, a province with huge areas of crown land and an abundance of varied wildlife (moose, elk, mulies, whitetail, pronghorn... ) WHAT THE HECK AM I THINKING?

Anyway, what do I need to hunt in Ontario? Is my Alberta hunting license transferable, or do I have to challenge a hunter safety test? And when are draw deadlines? And are there "general" whitetail deer and moose tags, or is it all lottery? And who can suggest productive Wildlife Management Units or whatever they are called out there to hunt? (I am looking at settling in the K-W/Cambridge area... but am definitely not limited to SW Ontario as far as where I'm willing to travel.) And is there a welcoming range in the K-W area?

Any advice is welcomed.

Cheers,
A.
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Man, Sorry about your luck! Wish I lived in Alberta. I'm near Toronto Give me a PM when you get here or before. I'm always looking for another guy or two for my camp.

Dave.
 
droid1963 said:
So, I'm packing up the family early in '08 and moving to Ontario to pursue a business opportunity. Leaving Alberta, a province with huge areas of crown land and an abundance of varied wildlife (moose, elk, mulies, whitetail, pronghorn... ) WHAT THE HECK AM I THINKING?
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This Just in:

Ontario Has tons of Crown Land too, We may have a smaller variety of Big Game but there is a lot of hunting to be done , plus you get to start Turkey Hunting !

As far as the K-W area, I hope you can make friends with some landowers, either that or drive up north.....
 
Steve David said:
Coming from a life long resident of Ontario, forget the business oportunity, stay in Alberta, there is much more opportunity in Alberta.
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LOL

How do you say that without even knowing what industry he's in? :runaway:

If you can't prosper in Ontario, you've got no hope. Just my humble opinion.

As far as crown land and nature/hunting go... Ontario is great for it. Most of Ontario is beautiful country, as some folks already mentioned. And contrary to popular belief (from non-residents, mostly) you don't have to spend 5 hours in the car to find crown land or nature outside of the big urban centers. I often ride up north of the city in the summer and it takes about an hour to get away from the urban stuff and into the scenic stuff. All the areas surrounding Georgian Bay are awesome and pretty much everything between 400 and 17 is accessible and worth visiting.
 
Stay where you are !

A life-long Ontarian, but "Honourary Albertan" (yes with a W.I.N. card for many years) Love the wetlands & uplands of the south, the foothills and
fly-fishing the Bow, the Oldman, the Crowsnest, etc.

The ability to shoot the odd black duck & woodcock just ain't worth it.
 
dont forget your orange hat and coat:pmight as well pick up the hunting regulations to learn the fine art of setting up of baits :p
dont forget to bring a good 4x4 truck,as you will need this for learning the fine art of road hunting..:p
 
I feel for you bro... I am lucky, I offered a few time to move to Ontario so the wife could be closer to her family. Blessedly she has said no every time, I ain't offering again...

Troutseeker
 
Republic of Alberta said:
I f**king hate Alberta now and want to leave too, but to move to Ontario??? Whatsa matta with you?
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Just to be clear, I LOVE ALBERTA.... that's not why I'm going. If I don't come back eventually to live, I'm gonna be buried here.

Thanks for the tips and advice guys. I've been looking at some online stuff re: the "Nearr North", Gowganda/Shining Tree, and Temagami, so I think I'll be tickety-boo as far as finding hunting grounds goes... but what do you guys do with all that freakin' water?!? LOL. Oh well, I guess I'll need a real nice expensive boat too. Wait 'til I tell the Missus.
 
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