Fuel prices and hunting plans?

Suther said:
Yeah. Let's ignore the record profits being made by oil companies. Let's just blame elected officials. I'm sure if the CPC was in power right now gas would still be $1.25/L right?...
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Does the oil company set the prices or does the market?

But to farther answer your question, yes a canadian gov could use canadian oil and back out of the global market and sell canadian fuel to canadians at any price it wants.

Or a gov could fight against oil and put huge taxes on it.
Or a gov could lower the taxed they charge on fuel to help its people.

What gov like higher taxes? And what one like lower taxes?
 
Suther said:
Yeah. Let's ignore the record profits being made by oil companies. Let's just blame elected officials. I'm sure if the CPC was in power right now gas would still be $1.25/L right?...
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Well seeing how CPC is pro pipeline and oil prices are a supply vs demand, yea prices would be cheaper. We would also have a higher cdn dollar! The CPC was also pushing for tax relief on fuel prices but Liberals and NDP voted it down!
 
dan belisle said:
I'm sure if the government didn't take half the cost of fuel as taxes, it would cost half as much. Even a leftist should be able to figure that out. - dan
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At this point, anyone who STILL supports the liberals and the ndp, is mentally ill, or a sadist. 4 years ago, maybe, but at this point, those 2 parties have managed to circumvent the democratic process with backroom dealings to turn this country into an autocracy.
Never forget.

Not that I'll be voting the cpc or PC party either. They've got no small part to play in the oil industry in this country. The fact that more oil than ever is leaving this country, and yet we're finding ourselves in this situation of approaching $3+(the sky's the limit)/litre gas and diesel? That's the PC's doing. They made the system, the left are just enjoying it to the point of self destruction.

Time for a reset of our own making, instead of their overlords.
 
I have to agree^^^, it doesn’t matter who is in there no more CPC or Liberal, it wouldn’t make any difference! Not now anyway!
 
LeePeterson said:
Well seeing how CPC is pro pipeline and oil prices are a supply vs demand, yea prices would be cheaper. We would also have a higher cdn dollar! The CPC was also pushing for tax relief on fuel prices but Liberals and NDP voted it down!
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Like the pipeline the Liberals bought and are building?

Or like the pipeline Biden canceled and we can't do anything about?...

I'm not saying government policy has nothing to do with the prices, but you can't tell me the oil companies aren't taking advantage of things when the oil companies are posting record profits.

Evanguy said:
Does the oil company set the prices or does the market?

But to farther answer your question, yes a canadian gov could use canadian oil and back out of the global market and sell canadian fuel to canadians at any price it wants.

Or a gov could fight against oil and put huge taxes on it.
Or a gov could lower the taxed they charge on fuel to help its people.

What gov like higher taxes? And what one like lower taxes?
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So you think the Govt should take control of the oil industry and regulate prices?... if I made that statement I'd be called a communist...

If the government cut all gas taxes we'd still be at like $1.80 in Greater Vancouver. Would you be happy with that? Or would you start to believe the oil companies are ####ing us?...

It's amazing how fast CGN switches to being in favor of government hand outs when it'll help them...
 
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Suther said:
Like the pipeline the Liberals bought and are building?

Or like the pipeline Biden canceled and we can't do anything about?...

I'm not saying government policy has nothing to do with the prices, but you can't tell me the oil companies aren't taking advantage of things when the oil companies are posting record profits.



So you think the Govt should take control of the oil industry and regulate prices?... if I made that statement I'd be called a communist...

If the government cut all gas taxes we'd still be at like $1.80 in Greater Vancouver. Would you be happy with that? Or would you start to believe the oil companies are ####ing us?...

It's amazing how fast CGN switches to being in favor of government hand outs when it'll help them...
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They could allow canadian oil companies to refine candian oil in canada and sell it to canadians via pipe lines.


Lol the gov doesnt need to own it to allow it to be sold it they just need to allow it to be refined and sold at the cost per barrel plus transport.


It would keep the jobs around it in canada and it will be better for the evironment since the wont need to ship other countires. Really its win win all the way around

We need a gov that isnt anti oil and that oppose retarded taxes
 
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Hunters like to complain about the price of gas, ammo and tags. It's always been this way.

Many times we've seen spikes in gas prices and the same question comes up. I always feel the same way- I can make more money but I can't make more hunting time, so I'm going to buy the gas! :)

People need to understand that this is just the beginning. The Trudeaus and the WEF elite types want high fuel prices, they don't want you travelling for recreation. They have come right out an said that destination tourist areas need to change their model to only catering to the very wealthy who will be able to afford travel in the future. At a certain point there will be a carbon credit system. If you are the type that likes to go on a family summer camping trip, a fall hunting trip and a winter Mexico getaway. That's simply going to be impossible unless you are wealthy enough to buy carbon credits.

So enjoy hunting while you can, burn those fuel dollars!:)
 
Evanguy said:
They could allow canadian oil companies to refine candian oil in canada and sell it to canadians via pipe lines.


Lol the gov doesnt need to own it to allow it to be sold it they just need to allow it to be refined and sold at the cost per barrel plus transport.


It would keep the jobs around it in canada and it will be better for the evironment since the wont need to ship other countires. Really its win win all the way around

We need a gov that isnt anti oil and that oppose retarded taxes
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I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but it's the oil companies who are shipping our oil to American refineries and not building more refineries in Canada... the oil companies invested a ton of money upgrading refineries in the Midwest so they can deal with our heavy oil better, the money is already spent so there is an incentive for them to send oil that way...

You'd get a lot more support for pipelines coming to BC if they were providing refined products for the domestic market, but they're not, the TMX expansion is primarily for exporting crude to China etc.
 
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MD said:
If my buddy still really really wants to go I may agree, but only with his vehicle. I'm not driving mine to Vanderhoof and beyond
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This comment confuses me. You don't want to go hunting because of the price of gas, but you’re ok with going with a buddy as long as he pays for the gas?

I hope thats not what you’re insinuating and that you’re actually suggesting carpooling and splitting the bill. Otherwise, your buddy should re-evaluate why he would bring you along.
 
Suther said:
I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but it's the oil companies who are shipping our oil to American refineries and not building more refineries in Canada... the oil companies invested a ton of money upgrading refineries in the Midwest so they can deal with our heavy oil better, the money is already spent so there is an incentive for them to send oil that way...

You'd get a lot more support for pipelines coming to BC if they were providing refined products for the domestic market, but they're not, the TMX expansion is primarily for exporting crude to China etc.
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We have more refineries than we need. We can already supply all of Canada's needs for a long time, hundreds of years. What we need are pipelines to feed eastern refineries. For Canada's needs anyway. - dan
 
Suther said:
Like the pipeline the Liberals bought and are building?

Or like the pipeline Biden canceled and we can't do anything about?...

I'm not saying government policy has nothing to do with the prices, but you can't tell me the oil companies aren't taking advantage of things when the oil companies are posting record profits.



So you think the Govt should take control of the oil industry and regulate prices?... if I made that statement I'd be called a communist...

If the government cut all gas taxes we'd still be at like $1.80 in Greater Vancouver. Would you be happy with that? Or would you start to believe the oil companies are ####ing us?...

It's amazing how fast CGN switches to being in favor of government hand outs when it'll help them...
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The pipeline that was going to built at no costbto the taxpayers before the Libs screwed that up? The pipeline that was going to cost 4.5 billion but is already over 21 billion due to Liberal financial acumen? That pipelone? - dan
 
1963beretta said:
This comment confuses me. You don't want to go hunting because of the price of gas, but you’re ok with going with a buddy as long as he pays for the gas?

I hope thats not what you’re insinuating and that you’re actually suggesting carpooling and splitting the bill. Otherwise, your buddy should re-evaluate why he would bring you along.
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Of course I meant car-pooling. I would have assumed that was obvious. You don't know me at all but that kind of pisses me off.
 
Suther said:
I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but it's the oil companies who are shipping our oil to American refineries and not building more refineries in Canada... the oil companies invested a ton of money upgrading refineries in the Midwest so they can deal with our heavy oil better, the money is already spent so there is an incentive for them to send oil that way...

You'd get a lot more support for pipelines coming to BC if they were providing refined products for the domestic market, but they're not, the TMX expansion is primarily for exporting crude to China etc.
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Canada's energy regulators said NO to building more refineries in Canada. It's not up the the oil companies whether refineries get built or not. It's up to Canada's energy regulating body.

Do you know where Trudeau wealth came from??? Opec and Saudi oil.
Trudeau has no need or want for Canadian oil because he is already getting paid fat wads of cash for stifling Canada's Oil industry.

it never ceases to amaze me how you always play the narrative you play...... always offering excuses for those who are lying and deceiving entire nations.
Always making excuses for the liberals.... kinda turns my stomach.
 
45ACPKING said:
Canada's energy regulators said NO to building more refineries in Canada. It's not up the the oil companies whether refineries get built or not. It's up to Canada's energy regulating body.

Do you know where Trudeau wealth came from??? Opec and Saudi oil.
Trudeau has no need or want for Canadian oil because he is already getting paid fat wads of cash for stifling Canada's Oil industry.

it never ceases to amaze me how you always play the narrative you play...... always offering excuses for those who are lying and deceiving entire nations.
Always making excuses for the liberals.... kinda turns my stomach.
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If we all place him our ignore list at least he's behind a locked door.
 
MD said:
Of course I meant car-pooling. I would have assumed that was obvious. You don't know me at all but that kind of pisses me off.
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You’re correct. I don’t know you. Partially the reason why I stated the comment was confusing. Carpooling is great. Makes no sense why two vehicles would need to be used if you can pack everything into one.

Obvious....not so much. No need to be pissed though. You’d be surprised how many folks don’t consider splitting the tab when hitching rides with others. Glad to hear you’re not one of them.
 
45ACPKING said:
Canada's energy regulators said NO to building more refineries in Canada. It's not up the the oil companies whether refineries get built or not. It's up to Canada's energy regulating body.
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News to me. Got a source?


A little bit of googling suggests that Canada's refineries already create enough gasoline to supply all of Canada, but its cheaper to import oil than get it to Ontario from the West. New refineries being built would thus be creating product we don't need and would be exported. Care to comment on that while you're at it?

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Why-Canada-Would-Rather-Export-Oil-Than-Refine-It.html

Come to think of it, doesn't the vast majority of BC gasoline come from Alberta refineries? I recall claims of like 90% coming through the current TMX when they had to shut it down last fall due to the floods/storms in November? So I guess more domestic refineries wouldn't make a significant impact on gasoline prices here in the West...?


And none of this answers how more refineries or refining more domestic oil rather than exporting it would make gas cheaper? The government doesn't set the price of a barrel of oil...?
 
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.64 CDN per liter for gas in Russia right now and the excess oil and gas are exported at spot . Russia pulls in about 1 billion per day right now and a Russian friend asked if i could imagine how rich Canada will be as Europe scrambles for other sources . I told him that it won't happen as our PM hates fossil fuels and he'll break our country borrowing money to go green , he won't allow pipelines to be built nor oil fields expanded .
 
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