New Non Restricted Purchase Procedures at SFRC

Chemist said:
That is correct but it does not say both sides of each.
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Edited to remove that, thanks.
FWIW I got that info from the email CSSA sent out to members the 18th May:

"Business Vendors

For mail-order transfers, the buyer must provide the seller with images of both sides of their PAL, along with images of both sides of one other piece of government-issued photo ID."
 
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Chemist said:
PAL and a secondary piece of ID.

If it’s in person, just the PAL.

We then generate a reference number.

To get the reference number online we give them your PAL #, date of birth and email, nothing else.
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So there is no information about the actual firearm being collected/transferred/registered..? What a waste of resources!
 
Yes there is. It is available from the retailer should it be necessary and there is a court document or reasonable reason for the police to request it.
 
I don't know if you will keep this post but my comment is that I understand both text and email are not that secure when it comes to attachments/documents.
 
Without texting and E-Mailing documents no business could function

I think its great that SFRC has made such a rapid change in their procedures and got the info out to the customers so quickly.
 
If people are worried about getting I'd or anything stolen by sending information over text/sms I suggest everyone to download a program called "signal". It's encodes open source encrypted text messages that the algorithm changes constantly. So if a hacked did decide to magically hack you, the algorithm of your message would of changed already. Also u can set it to automatically delete a message after a certian time if you are also extra paranoid.
 
Chemist said:
The new law says you need to send a PAL pic and a secondary photo ID pic for non in person orders. In person you just need a PAL. If they didn’t ask for an online sale they are not in compliance and can be charged. View attachment 590188
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Would it not be possible to do a quick video chat and show both IDs to the camera...? I don't see above that photo ID must be transferred by e-mail or txt...
 
Paul_T said:
With a Video chat only the PAL is required to be seen - so that they can confirm it matches the person with it in hand.

I'd much prefer that option myself.
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This seems like an easier option with most people having smart phones. Just have the business keep a dedicated "video/text/pic" cell on site. No audio calls.
 
The same people complaining about sending in their ID, would be complaining about being 12th in line, on hold for over an hour, with video calling. So that's not a solution.

And seriously, if you're online shopping and complaining about hackers, you don't know much about internet security. All the major browsers have had massive breaches in the last five years. And yet, you plan on putting in payment and personal information into those breached browsers, as long as you don't have to send in a picture?
 
The PAL is required no matter how the transfer is done. The 2nd ID is for online orders. As soon as the reference number is generated than he will erase the pics and the PAL info is written in the log book along with Make model and serial number. That part has not changed. Why is this so hard for everyone to understand.
I would rather give a trusted business my info then someone on the EE that I never met. At least I know Ryan is going to delete the pics as soon as the registration number is generated. Not sure if guy on the EE will though.
 
If the secondary ID is just to verify that the PAL and ID pictures match then I don't see why you couldn't block out any info that isn't already on the PAL. DL #, Address, etc could all be blocked out just using the picture and the name of the person visible on the second ID.
 
Face to face you exchange PAL's and yup we both look like our pictures. Trade cash for firearm and deal done, OR do we still have to involve the government for a transfer number?
 
Ryothc, stop posting in my forum. This is a post about our new procedures with regards to the new C-71 rules not how your metal hat is on to tight.

Don it reply to this post, do not post here. This is a forum for dealer advertising not your conspiracy theories.
 
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