are we enough mature to talk about the 375 ruger?

huntingfamily said:
Just google 375 ammunition in Canada.
Way more inventory for the gold standard Holland & Holland out there. This alone would be a huge deciding factor for me.
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^this...

Gatehouse said:
The H&H isn't crap, it still does what it used to do. It's just obsolete.
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... doesn't equate to this^

Arguing that the Ruger made the H&H obsolete is like saying the .308 made the .30/06 obsolete. Obsolete is .256 & .30 Newton, .280 Ross, .30 Rem, and a whole catalog full of Brit cartridges. The .22 Hornet and .250 Savage are obsolescent, but clinging on just due to the sheer volume of rifles built.

The .375 H&H will be with us for as long as there are metallic centerfire cartridges.
 
9.3mauser said:
^this...



... doesn't equate to this^

Arguing that the Ruger made the H&H obsolete is like saying the .308 made the .30/06 obsolete. Obsolete is .256 & .30 Newton, .280 Ross, .30 Rem, and a whole catalog full of Brit cartridges. The .22 Hornet and .250 Savage are obsolescent, but clinging on just due to the sheer volume of rifles built.

The .375 H&H will be with us for as long as there are metallic centerfire cartridges.
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It's very simple- The H&H uses an obsolete case design. If it wasn't an obsolete case design we would have seen many similar new cartridges introduced in the last 20 years but we haven't. The H&H still works fine but the Ruger is a superior cartridge.
 
I have a .375 Ruger in an M77 African and a .358-375 Ruger in a Stainless M77 MKII in a B&C stock. I like the cartridge just fine, about equally compared to a couple .375 H&H rifles. Which one I pull out for a hunt has nothing to do with which cartridge, but is decided based on the platform.
 
Buckmastr said:
You seem to be confusing the words obsolete and old. Because it is old doesn’t means it’s obsolete.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/obsolete
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From your link:


Definition of obsolete (Entry 1 of 2)
1a: no longer in use or no longer useful
an obsolete word
b: of a kind or style no longer current : OLD-FASHIONED
an obsolete technology


There is no doubt that the H&H case design is "of a kind or style no longer current"
 
Gatehouse said:
It's very simple- The H&H uses an obsolete case design. If it wasn't an obsolete case design we would have seen many similar new cartridges introduced in the last 20 years but we haven't. The H&H still works fine but the Ruger is a superior cartridge.
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So by that definition the 7mm Rem Mag, .300 Win Mag, .300 Weatherby, .338 WM, .458 WM are all obsolete?
 
This has been beat to death. Haha Gate is just having fun. It boils down to, newfangled and efficient.375 Ruger. No argument from me. You want slick feeding and cool, it’s H&H.
 
pathfinder76 said:
Both are a pretend need in this country anyway.
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it is funny that you re coming to say we do not need a caliber ... i need that kind of caliber here where i live but i wont say to someone wherever he live what he needs or not ...

i ll suggest you to reread the title of this thread over and over before posting ...
 
medvedqc said:
it is funny that you re coming to say we do not need a caliber ... i need that kind of caliber here where i live but i wont say to someone wherever he live what he needs or not ...

i ll suggest you to reread the title of this thread over and over before posting ...
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Hold on. I’ve used a couple of H&H’s, and a couple of Rugers to hunt with. I really don’t feel the difference between them is worth getting worked up over. Especially in Canada. Neither is really needed by a hunter in this country. So why we get tied in knots about this cartridge is beyond me.
 
pathfinder76 said:
Hold on. I’ve used a couple of H&H’s, and a couple of Rugers to hunt with. I really don’t feel the difference between them is worth getting worked up over. Especially in Canada. Neither is really needed by a hunter in this country. So why we get tied in knots about this cartridge is beyond me.
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You're really on a roll here, this morning. "Neither is really needed by a hunter in this country". This is the same kind of spew that has a whole list of firearms restricted and prohibited in this country, with many more on the way. These types of attitudes have no place here, or anywhere else. When the few, for whatever reason, figure that they get to decide for the many, from atop a pretend pedestal, things go sideways.
Why can't any individual decide what he wants to hunt with? You made the very same decision yourself, to hunt with a 375. Now you have deemed it unnecessary or not needed for others to do so? Just wow. The hypocrisy really does know no bounds with you?

R.
 
9.3mauser said:
So by that definition the 7mm Rem Mag, .300 Win Mag, .300 Weatherby, .338 WM, .458 WM are all obsolete?
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The 458 WM is one of the few H&H case based cartridges that actually need a belt for proper head space. So the belt isn't redundant on the 458 WM.

Redundant belted cases like the 7RM, 300 WBY etc are an obsolete case design.

The 375 H&H with it's long tapered case is an extraordinarily obsolete case design.

But this thread is about the 375 Ruger, not various belted cartridges.
 
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Gatehouse said:
The 458 WM is one of the few H&H case based cartridges that actually need a belt for proper head space. So the belt isn't redundant on the 458 WM.

Redundant belted cases like the 7RM, 300 WBY etc are an obsolete case design.

The 375 H&H with it's long tapered case is an extraordinarily obsolete case design.

But this thread is about the 375 Ruger, not various belted cartridges.
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Except I’m buying belted magnum brass from ADG, Peterson, and Lapua. All new production. So not sure this is actually the case.
 
I can buy turntable parts that are new production too doesn’t mean they haven’t been superseded by my cellphone and Spotify
 
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