Collectable US M14Rifles and Government Ban

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When I was in Israel, I was fortunate to deal with a surplus dealer who had
a consecutive numbered pair of TRW ‘s
I also got sniper rifle’s and Israeli contract ART ll scopes
Now the Government will be destroying them, along with a lot of other people’s
very collectible’s
 
I think what he said is that he acquired two consecutively-serial numbered TRWs via Israel, and now he's disappointed that (he anticipates that) his rifles are likely to be confiscated.
 
Well to be fair , he never actually said that he was in possession of these collectable rifles ; the OP was just saying what Trudeau wants to do with said rifles . Fortunately , the CPC had the foresight to dump the LGR , so Trudeau's Liberals have zero idea where those previously non restricted , but now OIC banned firearms are . Who knows , maybe those firearms will just vanish into the netherworld , and reappear after Trudeau's Liberals go down in flames after the next election .
 
Perhaps. But it was years ago that the ex-IDF M-14s got classified as 12-3 prohibs. I suspect that most were registered.
 
Not sure exactly what the OP,s point was either, But IF he legally acquired (registered) a TRW considered a FA/CA then the grabbers obviously already know their address.
 
can14 said:
When I was in Israel, I was fortunate to deal with a surplus dealer who had
a consecutive numbered pair of TRW ‘s
I also got sniper rifle’s and Israeli contract ART ll scopes
Now the Government will be destroying them, along with a lot of other people’s
very collectible’s
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what M14's?

I don't see no M14's......

I no longer post online what firearms I own..... it's just not a smart thing to do in these trying times.

Give them NOTHING!
 
An example to consider, there are aluminum upper and lower receiver Model 1928 Thompson SMG’s
registered in Canada, because the Government was interested in ordering some
So, the Canadian Rep , brought them in for testing,
I think Savage made them
In 1916 and 1939, American Companies came to Canada to sell gun’s
 
purple said:
Aren't ex-US military M14s classified as 12-6 Converted autos?
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yes they are
"some" were registered as such and thier owners grandfathered. Many despised the government then as much as they do now and refused to register when that system came into effect.
I'd bet there are thousands of various make and model of converted and full auto firearms that never got registered.
I'd assume anyone on this site mentioning a 12-6 class firearm in their possession probably has it registered.

as for what the government will pay for a 12-6 converted auto M14 of assumed collectable value???? Phuck all
Unfortunately for those who hold "collectable firearms" that are on the ban list , those firearms lost all their collectable value the minute they made it onto the OIC or the rcmp FRT ban list.
it is the sad reality because a 12-6 M14 can not be exported to the USA.
It "might" be exportable to other countries but it only has a collectable value based on the going rate for a collectable USGI M14 in US dollars, in the USA.
 
purple said:
Aren't ex-US military M14s classified as 12-6 Converted autos?
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12.6 are short barreled and 25/32 cal pistols
12.3 are converted autos
I've seen a 12.2 m14 at auction once, not sure of how that happenned...

45ACPKING said:
as for what the government will pay for a 12-6 converted auto M14 of assumed collectable value???? Phuck all
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Nothing actually. The "price list" they floated only applies to May 1, 2020 oic prohibs aka NPF.

45ACPKING said:
Unfortunately for those who hold "collectable firearms" that are on the ban list , those firearms lost all their collectable value the minute they made it onto the OIC or the rcmp FRT ban list.
it is the sad reality because a 12-6 M14 can not be exported to the USA.
It "might" be exportable to other countries but it only has a collectable value based on the going rate for a collectable USGI M14 in US dollars, in the USA.
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Converted autos are strange for export... if Foreign Affairs gets weird and asks for US to approve re-export (I understand this happens sometimes) then the export gets blocked - the US will pretty much never approve re-export of FA or CA firearms. But sometimes they sail through. And the same m14 that was restricted and became prohibited post may 1 are always approved. (No, really, there is a method to this madness)
 
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KotKotofeich said:
12.6 are short barreled and 25/32 cal pistols
12.3 are converted autos
I've seen a 12.2 m14 at auction once, not sure of how that happenned...



Nothing actually. The "price list" they floated only applies to May 1, 2020 oic prohibs aka NPF.


Converted autos are strange for export... if Foreign Affairs gets weird and asks for US to approve re-export (I understand this happens sometimes) then the export gets blocked - the US will pretty much never approve re-export of FA or CA firearms. But sometimes they sail through. And the same m14 that was restricted and became prohibited post may 1 are always approved. (No, really, there is a method to this madness)
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the government was always a little wishy washy on their designations. The M-14 was one, the Fal's another. I have one that has been unrestricted, restricted, prohib 12.2, 12.3 and 12.5. All the same rifle. For a while they were changing their minds a lot. - dan
 
KotKotofeich said:
12.6 are short barreled and 25/32 cal pistols
12.3 are converted autos
I've seen a 12.2 m14 at auction once, not sure of how that happenned...



Nothing actually. The "price list" they floated only applies to May 1, 2020 oic prohibs aka NPF.


Converted autos are strange for export... if Foreign Affairs gets weird and asks for US to approve re-export (I understand this happens sometimes) then the export gets blocked - the US will pretty much never approve re-export of FA or CA firearms. But sometimes they sail through. And the same m14 that was restricted and became prohibited post may 1 are always approved. (No, really, there is a method to this madness)
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I errored in typing the 12X designation..... big deal.
they did in fact name the M14 rifle and all variants in the May 1st 2020 OIC
I was not aware that a USGI M14 rifle once exported from the USA , could ever be returned to the USA. I have been repeatedly told the opposite by american friends who have tried to buy canadian 12X firearms...... going back over 20 years..... longer than I have been on CGN in fact.
 
^ No worries, I know you have forgotten more about guns than I know. No offense meant, just correcting for correctness sake :)

I also didn't mean to say 12.x m14 are admissible to the US (unless you have the original export file number they are not and this is paraphrasing what the Dept of State told me). My experience is with Europe. And I concur that their value anywhere in the world is based on the US market.
 
tiriaq said:
Perhaps. But it was years ago that the ex-IDF M-14s got classified as 12-3 prohibs. I suspect that most were registered.
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And you would be incorrect.

Because the Israeli lend-lease M14's were all imported by one company (Lever Arms), there were records for exactly how many came into the country (aprox 4000). Then, when those rifles were made prohibs, the govt knows how many were registered. Approximately 1/4 of the rifles imported into Canada got registered.

FWIW I had a TRW M14 and I was young and dumb enough to register the thing way back in 1989. That was the rifle that got me into the 12-3 class. It ended up going to a prop company to be used in movies.
 
Lever only brought in 1000 between him and the Alberta guy
Other people imported military m14 rifles from Israel as well
 
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