Older Brno Super Express Double Rifles

One on the EE that keeps getting bumped, pictures would help the seller. I think there’s different levels/quality of engraving.
 
m1008 said:
One on the EE that keeps getting bumped, pictures would help the seller. I think there’s different levels/quality of engraving.
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I never understand an offer to sell something without quality pictures in the listing... it really is not that hard to do.
 
It is pain for pics if computer is controlled by other ( that’s my case) And for listed gun, price might be a tad high as believe books say a lower
dollar value. The guns are well built good wood and nice engraving and they are heavy once scoped sling and shell holder with shells
 
I have a pair of them in .375 and 9.3X74, just a few numbers apart. Worked up loads and had them shooting tight groups of 1 1/2" and used them for a couple of caribou.
But I'm just not an O/U shooter and have always preferred SXS's, so they've sat for 35-40 years. Should move them on, but no interest up here, and notice how long it takes for the few I've seen listed to leave the market. Just a case of most discussions on doubles never mention them as a "sleeper"!
I have no fault with them, ..... they're not a Purdy, but rather a great rifle to be used instead of looked at.
 
Arctic said:
I have a pair of them in .375 and 9.3X74, just a few numbers apart. Worked up loads and had them shooting tight groups of 1 1/2" and used them for a couple of caribou.
But I'm just not an O/U shooter and have always preferred SXS's, so they've sat for 35-40 years. Should move them on, but no interest up here, and notice how long it takes for the few I've seen listed to leave the market. Just a case of most discussions on doubles never mention them as a "sleeper"!
I have no fault with them, ..... they're not a Purdy, but rather a great rifle to be used instead of looked at.
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a great tool is better than crying each time you get a scratch on your purdy ...

i imagine your 9.3x74r will be an easy one on the shoulder.
 
guntech said:
I never understand an offer to sell something without quality pictures in the listing... it really is not that hard to do.
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Yes, I've had the same thought. I raised it on another thread, and one forum member said that he thought that not including pictures helped to weed out the pretenders, the logic seemingly being that if a guy was really interested in your rifle, he would be happy to ask for pictures, and not providing pictures kept the "picture collectors" out of your life. I have to say I don't really follow that logic. I've always provided a lot of pictures with my items for sale, and I think it has helped save me time in not having to repeatedly send out pictures to everyone that might be interested and who asks for pictures.

The ads that really seem odd to me are the one-short-sentence and nothing more, like: "Remchester .270, good condition."
 
I’ve always been interested in euro over under doubles, I’m a born contrarian though

Are these and the 458 “stopper” on the same frame?
Edit: the stopper is a box lock and much more recent production than I thought

I handled one of these at a recent gun show with rhinos etc on the side plates. The term “ robust” comes to mind.


The EE seems to suggest ~4500 is overpriced. So what is a “fair” price? I imagine these sold for a lot less than a British or German double when manufactured? Is it really a matter of demand being that low?
 
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conor_90 said:
I’ve always been interested in euro over under doubles, I’m a born contrarian though

Are these and the 458 “stopper” on the same frame?
Edit: the stopper is a box lock and much more recent production than I thought

I handled one of these at a recent gun show with rhinos etc on the side plates. The term “ robust” comes to mind.


The EE seems to suggest ~4500 is overpriced. So what is a “fair” price? I imagine these sold for a lot less than a British or German double when manufactured? Is it really a matter of demand being that low?
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for every item there is 3 prices: the one you want to sell, what is worth, what is the buyer is willing to pay and sometimes the 3 are way too different ...
 
Arctic said:
I have a pair of them in .375 and 9.3X74, just a few numbers apart. Worked up loads and had them shooting tight groups of 1 1/2" and used them for a couple of caribou.
But I'm just not an O/U shooter and have always preferred SXS's, so they've sat for 35-40 years. Should move them on, but no interest up here, and notice how long it takes for the few I've seen listed to leave the market. Just a case of most discussions on doubles never mention them as a "sleeper"!
I have no fault with them, ..... they're not a Purdy, but rather a great rifle to be used instead of looked at.
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If you ever decide to take them out for fresh air, I'd love to just see them. Do you shoot at the YKSC?
 
m1008 said:
One on the EE that keeps getting bumped, pictures would help the seller. I think there’s different levels/quality of engraving.
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I have those photos. Very nice man. 1982 production and looks like it was stored in a sealed vault. Brand new condition, including the scope. Even the 80's vintage recoil pad is intact and those usually have deteriorated by now. My friend was very interested in it, but too much coin for him. As noted above, these came in standard grade with the photo chemical etched game scenes on the locks, and 5 different grades which ran up an extra $4000 USD for the top grade with gorgeous wood and beautiful hand engraved locks. His is standard grade with quite lovely wood, but not as refined as the German makes. The metal work, which is what Brno is known for, is exquisite and probably amoung the strongest, most robust I have ever seen. I'm sure it's bomb proof and probably well worth what he's asking.
 
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O/u doubles don't get the respect they deserve. Blame the British. They set that style. I actually prefer the O/U configuration in both rifles and shotguns. It's interesting to me that the shotgun sports have recognized the superiority of the O/U configuration in double guns, but in the rifle world, side by side gets way more attention. I feel that is the triumph of nostalgia over function. Nobody keeps track of target scores shot with a double rifle. I have O/U and SxS in both rifles and shotguns, and like them all. But an O/U rifle is almost always underpriced for what it actually can do. They are easier to shoot accurately, easier to regulate, and are slimmer in the hand. They respond to mounting a scope much better without shifting point of impact so much.
 
Seems like euros like o/u barrels and small bore doubles are still relatively popular. Not sure if it’s because of ease of production, a cultural preference, genuine superiority or all of the above.

Ive seen it suggested that o/u designs were originally come up with by BOSS? Seems kind of unlikely from the diversity of over under designs from continental makers.

There’s a few cool looking Westley-Richards and BOSS over under big bore doubles online.
 
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