Leupold, Korth group Warranty Experience

I only shoot to mpbr at trophy does under 250 yards.

I do not dial my scopes often in load development.

I like a lot of the Leupold scopes from a design perspective re weight mounting length etc. But holy smokes are they overpriced on the e.e. Scopes that are decades old and probably have worse glass than a lot of current import scopes going for 350-500 bucks

I just honestly can’t think of a good “fudd scope” alternative. I have had Steiners, Schmidt and Bender and leupold and the euro scopes are obvious winners but porky and expensive.
 
Kodiak what have you replaced your leupolds with?

Who else makes light one inch tubes with no fancy reticles or turrets and low magnification ranges for fudds?

Light? 1” tubes? No idea. After using glass that works I chose to replace 1” tubes and light weight with stuff with robust internals. There is always a trade off to be made with anything and the trade I chose was having glass that puts bullets where I want them to go.

The next couple of rifles will end up with SHV’s most likely. My current favorite glass is getting tougher to source, so I’m not real interested in blowing up the EE competition. I will say though that a Christmas tree reticle isn’t that difficult to get used to. And nobody says you have to use it, the middle is still the middle.
 
Right; I’ll get right on buying a 2 lb scope with a Christmas tree reticule and target turrets I will never use…
 
Right; I’ll get right on buying a 2 lb scope with a Christmas tree reticule and target turrets I will never use…

If you’re setting and forgetting you won’t beat a fixed power leupold I’m partial to the 4x33 and the 6x36 with the LR duplex

Pretty easy to set that reticle up for hold overs to 500 yards no messing with Dials. Lightweight and great eye relief too.
 
Right; I’ll get right on buying a 2 lb scope with a Christmas tree reticule and target turrets I will never use…

I don’t expect a Honda Ridgeline to pull a gooseneck trailer… I’ll accept a bit of a mileage penalty and added cost on my daily driver knowing that if I need it to pull that trailer, it’s going to be there.

And if you are a set it and forget it guy using holdover for a bit of distance, and are willing to chase adjustments to zero and check zero every opportunity you get in order to save some weight and cost then there are definitely options out there that work. Just pick one with a great warranty program.

Personally though, I know what I put a rifle through in the course of a season and I don’t want to wonder if it’s holding zero between checking it yesterday and needing to make a shot count today.
 
I mean; I love how my S&B tracks with absolute perfection. With mpbr and small holdover it is good to 300 yards and that is about as far as I can shoot effectively anyways.

Vx freedom and earlier vx models never seemed to track accurately for me. I never had issues with them holding zero though? Maybe it’s just me not being a super sniper and just a fudd but I used to go to the range and ring the 3 inch gong at 200 to “ check my zero” before day hunting when I was up north. That isn’t exactly scientific, an accuracy test or seemingly necessary from the results.

My version of “long range” was shooting irons at silhouette pigs from the bench at 500 yards ymmv.

For load development “close to the centre” is good enough

I have done some sheep hunting and a fair bit of mountain/foothill elk hunting and though I have wanted for a rangefinder; I’ve never thought “ damn I wish I had a Horus reticule”. I have thought “ I wish this gun was lighter “ :dancingbanana:
 
I have owned and used Leupold scopes for over30 years now, and have only ever needed to send one scope in to Korth for repairs.
Slipped and fell on a mountain goat hunt and landed on the rocks scope first.
Got off the mountain and shot the rifle (Rem 700 338 Win Mag with Vari X-III 3.5-10x40) at a rock face at 100 yards; 3 hits on point of aim at approx. 1".
A week later, before heading out on another hunt, headed out to the range to double check. Scope was way off - barely on paper at 100 yards.
Took off and mailed to Korth. They fixed and shipped back to me at no cost. Rifle was back on rifle in 11 days!

Have had one other Leupold (VX-3 4.5-14x40) that I had to re-sight in after missing a bull elk at approx 200 yards. Went to the range that afternoon and checked zero; it was 11" high and 8" left. Must have gotten bumped somewhere along the line, but do not recall such an event. Reset and it has held ever since - been almost 20 years now. I recheck every rifle before heading afield on a hunt with it, every year.
Never had any of the issues that others have mentioned over the years, but for the most part my scopes are older Vari X-III's and 3's. Only have one VX-3i (2.5-8x36 on a 250 Savage), and sighted it for 200 yards and have left it there.

Have I ever shot and adjusted my scopes for returning to zero after shooting a box pattern where I adjusted the scope for each corner of the box...no.
I set all my scopes for my hunting rifles capable of 200 yards or more, with 200 yard zeros, and then verify B&C reticle or poa at longer distances.
I have never worried about the rest of the adjustability and return to zero stuff...but I have never gotten into the long range shooting game, as I am hunter first.

Now that I have a couple of the VX-5HD (2-10 and 3-15) scopes to mount on a couple of rifles, I will need to play with the Zero Stop and repeatability techniques for using these scopes as I set them up on the rifles 3-15 will be going on a 6.5 PRC once finished).

My practice has been limited to 400 or 500 yards as our local ranges allow and/or have changed over the years.
And yes...I too have shot at that metal pig set out at 500 yards at the Chetwynd range this past year.
Hitting it with multiple consecutive shots does build confidence in one's ability, not mention the rifle and ammunition used to do it with (both of my 338 Federal's with factory ammo). An elk, moose, or even sheep is bigger than that pig! Was a lot of fun!

I have only ever shot at one animal that was close to 500 yards (475), and I under estimated the range on that first shot as I had been watching that elk come across the field through my scope at 10 power the whole way, and thought him to be at 400 yards, which is the distance that I had routinely practiced with that rifle and ammo to that point, and held accordingly. When I went to reload, I realized how far away he was, but as I had hit him (grazed the brisket just behind the front legs) on the first shot, and he had only taken a couple steps forward after the first hit and swapped directions, my second shot was adjusted and hit centre of vitals with my adjusted point of aim.
 
It was a tough pill to swallow, as I was/is way deep into double digits worth of Leupolds, but for me there is stuff that works the way I expect it to.

Guys that don’t run a lot of rounds down range every year, or are willing to check it and make adjustments due to “humidity changed the stock obviously” or “must have got bumped last season” or “I must’ve pulled that shot” and chase a zero around till it’s set where they want every August, they might work great for them. Or the guys who need to have stainless rings on a stainless rifle with a gunmetal gray Leupold so it “looks good” in the truck, great.

But if a guy wants a scope that track’s between zoom adjustments or dials for distance and expects first round hits or wants a scope to stay zeroed while it’s on the truck seat, there are better options available. Just depends on what a person’s priorities are.
And to speak to the OP, I’ve never had a bad experience with Korth, and I’ve mailed them a bunch of glass over the years.

That covers it all pretty well. I went from owning nothing but the big L, to only a few, and none on ‘serious’ rifles.

Or maybe I’m just trying to help Tasco sell scopes… 🤪
 
A “serious rifle” is what exactly?

A serious rifle is defined as Internet talk designed to make your hunting adventure seem more exciting, long range, dangerous, precise and higher scoring than others. A statement often found when confusing dumb gear with personal skill.
 
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