Rem 700 bolt handle fell off fixable?

That handle and the bolt in the attachment area are a mess. The bolt is salvageable I suppose. Far easier to just replace the handle than try to clean it up. The camming surface on the handle has to engage the corresponding receiver surface correctly. I did put one 700 bolt back together that was a challenge. The knob had been hammered, trying to open the bolt. The bolt didn't want to open because the sleeve threads were rusted to the bolt body threads. The handle peeled about half way then broke. To repair it, I heated the rear of the bolt to break the brazed joint loose, bent the handle saddle back, welded the handle back together, cleaned it up, and then silver brazed the handle back on the bolt. Cleaned up nicely, worked fine.
Incidentally, when brazing or welding, high temperatures are involved. I wrap the bolt body in wet rags, and apply anti-scale compound inside and outside. Makes cleanup much easier.

It might be most satisfactory to replace the bolt. In the past I have obtained bolt bodies from Bighorn Sales. I have also had positive experiences dealing with PT&G. PT&G has replacement handles. Brownells is sold out of that extended one in my photo. Brownells does have their universal handle, which can be used, but the extraction cam area must be shaped. Gives you a R700 with a Ruger style handle. Looks good.
 
Yes it’s pretty rough looking.
I mentioned that he could probably get new replacement parts but his buddy told him he could fix it.
I’ll mention it to him again tomorrow morning when I drop it off.
His call
 
That rifle is recent production. Very good chance that a Remington bolt would headspace, and if the camming is OK the rifle would be good to go. Gauges would be needed of course.
Try Big Horn, see if a Remington bolt can be had. Remington made bolts with different sizes. Left locking lug will show a line, punch dot or be blank.
Should headspace be excessive, the barrel is going to have to be set back as necessary. Might be a minor adjustment.
Your friend can let his welder try to repair it. If the repair is successful, great. If not, the replacement route is going to have to be followed.
 
tiriaq said:
That rifle is recent production. Very good chance that a Remington bolt would headspace, and if the camming is OK the rifle would be good to go. Gauges would be needed of course.
Try Big Horn, see if a Remington bolt can be had. Remington made bolts with different sizes. Left locking lug will show a line, punch dot or be blank.
Should headspace be excessive, the barrel is going to have to be set back as necessary. Might be a minor adjustment.
Your friend can let his welder try to repair it. If the repair is successful, great. If not, the replacement route is going to have to be followed.
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Thanks
I can check for headspace and make any adjustments if needed.

If he can’t repair what he got
 
OP,
The bolt handle pictured is of current production & a "Short Cam" handle as I've coined them from their introduction in 2006.

The task of TIMING said handle is impossible w/o prior re-work.

Meaning,no matter how one attempts to "Locate" (fwd/aft) or "Time" (radially) the short cam handle,it will be .150" out of TIME in reference to the bolt lugs & receiver integral lugs.

Remington 2 lug bolt/handles are TIMED into Battery & NOT for Primary Extraction.

tiriaq-
Filler TIG weld the radial surfaces & fusion TIG weld the aft surface.

There are 5 aspects/functions that need to be accomplished to properly TIME the bolt lugs,handle,receiver,sear bar,firing pin assy.

10's of thousands welded to date......& still counting!
 
45C said:
Yes it’s pretty rough looking.
I mentioned that he could probably get new replacement parts but his buddy told him he could fix it.
I’ll mention it to him again tomorrow morning when I drop it off.
His call
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Post pics of the fix for us to see.
 
There’s still one partial piece of screw left on each section and the two female holes.

They fit together almost lol perfectly.

What would happen if they are .150 out timing?
 
So one other thought just occurred to me, I’m the guy sighting in the rifle .. lol

I don’t want that bolt stuck in my teeth..
 
I wouldn’t worry about it, even though the bolt is made from a bunch of pieces soldered together (look closely you’ll see). Fixed properly and functional are two different things.
 
Just thinking of a catastrophic failure.
Thought maybe the bolt handle would slow the bolt down , on its rearward movement.

Lost a bit of confidence in it now… lol
 
OP,
The "Screwed" & burnt silver braze job is/was performed by a Rookie...at best.

The screw installed to hold the handle to the bolt body was a decoration at best & a bad decoration at that.
(A clearance hole thru the handle should have been the machine process....NOT a threaded hole thru the handle into the bolt body...as many TactiKool modifiers accomplish the task.

The handle does NOT & is NOT what holds/locks the bolt in the action...there are 2 bolt lugs in the front end of the bolt body that need to be rotated(by the Handle) to lock the bolt into & out of Battery.

With the handle pictured(short Cam),even cleaned up,is physically & mechanically impossible to correctly LOCATE,TIME said bolt handle w/o re-working said handle.

guntech-
post the pic(s) if you'd like.
(the bolt handle that I sent you was re-worked to TIME correctly)
 
DANS40X said:
OP,
The "Screwed" & burnt silver braze job is/was performed by a Rookie...at best.

The screw installed to hold the handle to the bolt body was a decoration at best & a bad decoration at that.
(A clearance hole thru the handle should have been the machine process....NOT a threaded hole thru the handle into the bolt body...as many TactiKool modifiers accomplish the task.

The handle does NOT & is NOT what holds/locks the bolt in the action...there are 2 bolt lugs in the front end of the bolt body that need to be rotated(by the Handle) to lock the bolt into & out of Battery.

With the handle pictured(short Cam),even cleaned up,is physically & mechanically impossible to correctly LOCATE,TIME said bolt handle w/o re-working said handle.

guntech-
post the pic(s) if you'd like.
(the bolt handle that I sent you was re-worked to TIME correctly)
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I understand that lugs lock the bolt. Just thinking that if the bolt handle had some shear strength, it would slow the bolt down, on its way back.
In the event of a catastrophic failure.
 
remington jim said:
They’re known to break off when BUBBAS TOP end Handloads over pressure and seize up the cartridge in the chamber and then DUMB ASS Bubba beats the bolt open with a 2x4 ! JMO RJ
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I don’t think this gun seen any hand loads in its life, until Sunday.
But knowing the guy , I’d say he had something to do with the original issue.

Having said that, I’ve seen a couple of rifles that had the bolt open , via 2x4 and the handles didn’t fall off.
They weren’t Remingtons though.

I had to put a new trigger because he said the gun fired by itself before.
Blamed it on a faulty trigger.
Who knows… lol
 
A faulty trigger that was MOLESTED by a ROOKIE or NO preventative maintenance.
(& as a ??? you changed the trigger group)?

Get a CLUE !!!!!!

Of the 10's of thousands of Remington & Clone silver brazed bolt handles that I've fixed over the decades,I have never fluxed/heated a handle to remove it from the bolt body.

Once I have measurements...for my blueprint-

I induce harminic/vibration that we as humans can NOT hear or feel.

A couple taps & not swing a baseball bat like Babe Ruth,the handle jumps off the bolt body.

Prep,re-work,locate,time,confirm,TIG weld,confirm,lube,wrap & ship...DONE.

A slow years consists of 400+ bolts/handles from individuals.
An average year consists of 600 bolts/handles from individuals.
Manufacturer bolts/handles are not included in the above numbers.
 
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