Trap vs English vs Field stocks

My club had green targets and flash targets. You sign up to be involved and if you missed a green bird you had to pay $2. If you hit a flash target you got a free round. Money raised paid for the flash targets. We didn't have a cool name for it. Just a few guys giving up their coffee money lol
 
I like straight grips for double trigger guns, it makes proper trigger control easier. BUT the gun must also have correct cast, and pitch, and toe out, for the straight grip to be "perfect" and instinctive to use. A curved grip does help a shooter adapt to an imperfectly fitting stock.
Someone asked a question about straight grips on pump guns, - not for me thanks. Compared to curved grips, I find straight grips make it harder to keep my trigger hand in the proper position while shooting repeat shots and associated recoil.
Also, pump guns with straight grips almost never incorporate cast off or toe out in the stock design. With no toe out, the gun tends to twist a tiny bit when mounted. With no cast off, the shooter must push their face harder against the stock to achieve a sight picture directly down the centre of the rib. Both compensations for imperfect stock fit are better achieved with a curved grip for the trigger hand to firmly grasp.
 
I prefer to carry a straight grip on long days on the field. I do a lot of one handing of the shotgun with a light 20 gauge...but have learned to like carrying the the pistol grip Beretta A400 Xplor 28 ga that only weighs 5.5#s the past two seasons. My 686 single trigger O/U has a straight grip Coles stock that I really like as do all the SxSs we have. My 16 ga Model 12 Winchester that has a straight grip stock (not factory, but from High Plains in Nebraska) has the comb fluting set too far away from the trigger for my hand to use it for repetitive placement. Other than issue that I shoot straight grips just fine.
 
Rollin Oswald states that the original intent of the straight (English) stock was to make it easier to operate a double-trigger gun for two rapid shots.
 
I think the straight gripped English gun was mostly tradition. Shotgun, rifle or musket, starting with flintlocks and before, through percussion guns and early breech loaders like the pinfire, basefire and to the current style of hammerless guns that we’ve been using now for nearly 150 years, single or double barrelled, the preference was always for straight gripped guns.
 
I've never shot any organized clay games but after watching people like the terrible Jonny Carter and his band of Merry Men shooting Sporting Clays it certainly makes me want to give it a try. It looks like a ton of fun.
 
As a person who has used a double trigger with a straight grip only a few times and found it awkward, do you really move your hand between shots ?
 
kamlooky said:
I'm really surprised these gems aren't more popular.
I've owned a few and they do fit well.
Best bet would be to find one with the screw in chokes.
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sillymike said:
Well, since we're going off on a tangent... speaking of english stock and field gun... anybody have experience with the BPS Upland Special?
- Often fancied one... and the clean sides would certainly look good with some engraving... and case colored receiver

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too english maybe for a japanese shot gun ... i tried the stock and preferred to shoot a 20ga than a 12 ga in that specific configuration and cant explain why.

bps regular stock is a great fit but i sold all i had, i do not know if i was weak or not but i prefer the modularity of the 870- even as a left handed shooter.
 
Westward1 said:
As a person who has used a double trigger with a straight grip only a few times and found it awkward, do you really move your hand between shots ?
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Not so much to move it between shots but I position my hand far back so that I'm using the first joint of my finger on the front trigger than just move it back to the second trigger. I find a pistol grip quite awkward to use with double triggers.
 
Ok I am maybe a bit of an exception ,as my hands are rather huge but I have several (5) straight stocks and never move the hand .
 
Westward1 said:
As a person who has used a double trigger with a straight grip only a few times and found it awkward, do you really move your hand between shots ?
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Yes, with practice you're not aware that you're doing it, and slipping your hand back a fraction to engage the 2nd trigger is actually faster than trying to move just your finger.

As a footnote; if I move just my trigger finger I get a nasty rap on the knuckle from the front trigger. Doesn't happen if you slide your hand back.
 
9.3mauser said:
Yes, with practice you're not aware that you're doing it, and slipping your hand back a fraction to engage the 2nd trigger is actually faster than trying to move just your finger.

As a footnote; if I move just my trigger finger I get a nasty rap on the knuckle from the front trigger. Doesn't happen if you slide your hand back.
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Some doubles have articulating front triggers that swing forward to eliminate or at least minimize the rap to your index finger when puling the rear trigger. I've never had an issue with the front trigger rapping my index finger however a trigger guard on a double that is long gone would pound the heck out out of the base of my middle finger. All in the geometry of the trigger guard, grip design, hand/finger size and placement, but the easiest thing was to move on from the beater.
 
9.3mauser said:
Yes, with practice you're not aware that you're doing it, and slipping your hand back a fraction to engage the 2nd trigger is actually faster than trying to move just your finger.

As a footnote; if I move just my trigger finger I get a nasty rap on the knuckle from the front trigger. Doesn't happen if you slide your hand back.
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There’s a lot to be said about the value of an articulating front trigger.
 
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