A Message from Matt Hipwell

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RyoTHC said:
Who funds the CSAAA? Time to revoke any and all funding AND demand the board be changed entirely. Clearly not a single person that sat in that board had a set of balls… wonder how long they have been without?
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All those business members provide the CSAAA funding along now, with the Liberals …to revoke their funding we have to boycott those business.

Stopping buying anything from those business - store - is the biggest statement we can do.

There is no need for those traitors. They have chosen their camp. They have chosen to work with the Liberals and the antis org.
If they go bankrupt - good for all of us, the sooner the better. I am sure other ethical business will take over. But those guys must be dumped - kicked out of our gun owner communities. They are the Liberals and anti gun org , official gun grabber program managers.
 
Did you sell or did you not, you cannot stand on your laurels. An accusation has been made, either deny or endorse it...I donated hundreds of dollars, I deserve to know.
 
Fock Wolverine and any other collaborants businesses. What a pathetic attempt to whitewash themselves. This business is done for me and my friends. You're surprised with reaction? Grow some principles, balls and grey matter.
 
Well, I can see why people disagree with the CSAAA cooperating with the government at all. Everyone is welcome to do as they wish of course. I, however, certainly don’t think the level of vitriol is proportionate to their ‘crime’. I’m going to continue to support Wolverine and other quality firearms dealers I’ve dealt with in the past. I’m also going to continue to donate to the legal challenges by ATRS, John Hipwell and others and support the CPC get elected federally in the next election as well as the UCP here in Alberta.

You can disagree with someone without writing them off entirely and forever. You can still ally in the areas where you agree. This is an important time for the firearms community right now. We really need a some court wins, a change of government, and to win in the court of public opinion. I don’t see how blackballing the (former?) members of the CSAAA board helps advance any of these goals.

Hope your moral indignation and posturing keeps you entertained if we lose the court battles and C21 gets passed with amendments. I choose to keep working with our allies, flaws or not.
 
DaedalusX said:
I’ve been a customer at Elwood and Wolverine for more than 20 years. Never again.
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Rewatched the zoom call, because people were saying go to time stamp ###x, it will show Rod Giltaca cutting Wes Nessman a new one. Low and behold, there's Ed Burlews face. So Ed and John knew Matt was dealing with the devil. Eat the $150+k owed on the legal challenge.

Zero fxs, not even 1/2 ! Fx to all the traitors.
 
700-223 said:
Well, I can see why people disagree with the CSAAA cooperating with the government at all. Everyone is welcome to do as they wish of course. I, however, certainly don’t think the level of vitriol is proportionate to their ‘crime’. I’m going to continue to support Wolverine and other quality firearms dealers I’ve dealt with in the past. I’m also going to continue to donate to the legal challenges by ATRS, John Hipwell and others and support the CPC get elected federally in the next election as well as the UCP here in Alberta.

You can disagree with someone without writing them off entirely and forever. You can still ally in the areas where you agree. This is an important time for the firearms community right now. We really need a some court wins, a change of government, and to win in the court of public opinion. I don’t see how blackballing the (former?) members of the CSAAA board helps advance any of these goals.

Hope your moral indignation and posturing keeps you entertained if we lose the court battles and C21 gets passed with amendments. I choose to keep working with our allies, flaws or not.
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Who is posturing? Maybe you and the traitors. The rest of us have made the call financially. There are plenty of other gunshops we can and will spend money at. As for the stores that are on the BoD, meh, I hope they tailspin into the ground. The other stores we pick up the slack and come out better at the other end.
 
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nowarningshot said:
Rewatched the zoom call, because people were saying go to time stamp ###x, it will show Rod Giltaca cutting Wes Nessman a new one. Low and behold, there's Ed Burlews face. So Ed and John knew Matt was dealing with the devil. Eat the $150+k owed on the legal challenge.

Zero fxs, not even 1/2 ! Fx to all the traitors.
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WRONG ASSUMPTION, time to back off and confirm your facts before making a statement on a public forum.
 
So why wont CSAAA publicly denounce and reject the deal with the liberals if this was all the liberals taking things out of context etc.? Doesn't that seem like an easy fix if indeed their intent wasn't to turn their backs on the firearms community?

I think the firearms community just isn't too keen that there is a self-appointed group that is now making choices that effect the entire community. Sure the groups original intent was a retailers network but now its become the voice of the entire firearms community the liberals are using. It really doesn't matter or help that this group sees themselves as elites in the firearms community due to their positions or financial ability to donate. Bottom line is a choice was made on the entire firearms community and it favors an extremely small portion of the firearms community and the liberals. You don't understand why everyone feels betrayed? really? CSAAA needs to make things right by this community that has supported their businesses for decades allowing them to be in this position at all.

Also if you're going to take a buyout, 700k distributed between all retailers was an absolutely terrible deal. I hope I have this wrong because this is pathetic.
 
MkivSupra said:
So why wont CSAAA publicly denounce and reject the deal with the liberals if this was all the liberals taking things out of context etc.? Doesn't that seem like an easy fix if indeed their intent wasn't to turn their backs on the firearms community?

I think the firearms community just isn't too keen that there is a self-appointed group that is now making choices that effect the entire community. Sure the groups original intent was a retailers network but now its become the voice of the entire firearms community the liberals are using. It really doesn't matter or help that this group sees themselves as elites in the firearms community due to their positions or financial ability to donate. Bottom line is a choice was made on the entire firearms community and it favors an extremely small portion of the firearms community and the liberals. You don't understand why everyone feels betrayed? really? CSAAA needs to make things right by this community that has supported their businesses for decades allowing them to be in this position at all.

Also if you're going to take a buyout, 700k distributed between all retailers was an absolutely terrible deal. I hope I have this wrong because this is pathetic.
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Long shot guess, but I think they already signed the dotted line and cannot back out anymore?
 
This group should be exposing the Liberals and Mendicino for what they are.

What are they afraid of?

Non disclosure agreement?????

These people are in business with this type of intellect???

They should all hang their heads in shame if they cannot stand up and call out the liberals.

Beyond disgusted.
 
Does anyone actually know what this supposed $700,000 payment is for or you don't understand the contract that was signed? I hear lots of BS from the same ######s that voted Liberal and NDP but what I don't hear is why now suddenly you think everyone should save your precious ass cause you might loose a few firearms. Wake the hell up this is not about your loss of a few weapons this your government declaring war on you and your families. Look at other countries when they take away rights and freedoms and folks are on their knees begging for food and wondering why they gave up their guns for the loss of everything for a promise and a lie. Campaign for your local politician, write letters, make phone calls, torment this government and jam the switchboards, mailboxes, email boxes, call logs and don't let up cause if you do the fight is over and we lost.
 
Mr Wolverine said:
WRONG ASSUMPTION, time to back off and confirm your facts before making a statement on a public forum.
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slarsen47 said:
This group should be exposing the Liberals and Mendicino for what they are.

What are they afraid of?

Non disclosure agreement?????

These people are in business with this type of intellect???

They should all hang their heads in shame if they cannot stand up and call out the liberals.

Beyond disgusted.
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They cannot call the Libs on it - The CSAAA president - in a video posted numerous time on CGN - told The CSAAA signed a contract - negotiated over a year - to manage the Liberal Gun grab program.

How clear is this ? Very clear. They now work for the Liberals and anti-guns group to execute their gun grab policy.
It’s disgusting but that’s what they done willingly.
 
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