Deactivating a receiver only
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Agreed, but the Rules in place, only show consideration for an entire gun (as opposed to the Legal "Firearm")
How do you install pins and weld up an action only (the Firearm), when it is not a fully assembled gun, with the parts that are required to be welded, pinned, etc., attached?
Depending on the action, but welding up the thread area solid where a barrel would attach would pretty much deactivate it. Hard to prove other wise in a court of law... and that is where it would end up if the gestapo charged you...
How is destroying a firearm receiver, a "dodge?"
The government has from day one said deactivation ON THEIR DIME is an option. So, what if everyone (or even a very large number) with an OIC banned firearm were to go for that option. There aren't even close to enough gunsmiths to do the work much less by the deadline of this September when the amnesty ends. Delicious.
Simple. The CFC has a stupid and poorly thought out deactivation process, by which, if you do not actually follow it, they refuse to accept that the firearm has been deactivated.
It is a 'dodge', when you consider that there is no barrel or chamber, in many cases, no threads to mount a barrel, there may be no bolt to weld so that it does not move, and so on, down the long list of stupid and arbitrary requirements that are ensconced in the CFC's paperwork, which completely disregard that anyone would not take an incomplete (but still, Legally, 'a firearm') receiver or frame, and try to deactivate it, rather than, what I suspect the semi-official line will be, which is that it goes to the smelter.
Now, you, me, and guntech, while having the personal knowledge, that it would be far easier to make a replacement from scratch, accept that simply cutting the action in half in either direction, should indeed meet the requirements of destruction or deactivation, it seems pretty clear to me that the CFC has NOT actually considered that there might be a single part that IS the Firearm, in Law, to be dealt with.
Explosives. Seriously. US Navy ships have been using steel and Aluminum plates to interface between the steel structures of the hulls, and the lighter superstructure above it. They use explosives to weld the differing materials together.
Gonna be a little tough to find the results on the Range, though....
From a more practical perspective, you sorta don't, but you could probably pick a hidden enough place to put a big, ugly, and interlocking mess of molten metals, so as it would supposedly qualify.
When the feds reached out to gunsmith’s in a letter requesting interest in a deactivation process, one of the rules on AR style firearms was the receiver and bolt, one ferrous steel the other non ferrous, must be welded together. Now, I’ve welded a fair bit, and I have never tried welding the two because it’s a metallurgical rule that you can’t. But somewhere in a Liberal’s mind you can. And for the love of God, please tell me I’m not dumber than a Liberal, seriously please.
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Well then I guess you are going to get the answers you deserve.
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Obviously you need to build it into a fully functioning gun before deactivating it.
And they also said if you do anything before the compensation plan is in place you won't get a cent.
All the more reason to wait til the bitter end, rather than be in a rush to comply.
More importantly, why is everyone so concerned with reporting their activities to the CFP?
Reporting the destruction of ANY firearm to a peace officer is a requirement of Section 107 of the Criminal Code. The CFP call centre drones are not Peace officers.
Reporting the deactivation of a registered restricted firearm to the Registrar of Firearms is a requirement of a VALID REGISTRATION CERTIFICATE.
Let that sink in for a minute.
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So you've seen some of my "welds"
or my sticking metal bits together with electricity and wire Cameron SS
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The Attorney General of Canada has been arguing vigorously on behalf of the Registrar in Provincial Courts across Canada that the certificates are nullified and according to numerous court decisions, including the Alberta Court of Appeal, the firearms have been unregistered for more than 3 years...
The registrar will now be unable to argue the certificates are valid and owners are therefore subject to the conditions on those certificates.
Now, see THAT would be funny and entirely in character with Blackface's tendency to paint his govt into a corner with stupid virtue signalling ideas.
The AR-15s are in a weird illegal limbo of the registrar's making, aye. The judge in front of me was fine with that though.
