Peep sights
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Dark Alley Dan
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That right there is a special kind of genius. Well done, mate.
Agree. Nicely done. - dan
Dark Alley Dan
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That's my dream setup right there. Ranch hand with a full stock and peeps. Good work, bud.
boxhitch,
Not really adjustable in the traditional sense. I drilled the peep as close to center as I could and figured I could flip it around if I needed l-r adjustment. I replaced the factory front sight with a piece of stainless and regulated the height at the range. Fortunately the rifle hit dead center l-r right off the bat. I had also thought I could add a shim on whichever side to regulate the peep.
Not really adjustable in the traditional sense. I drilled the peep as close to center as I could and figured I could flip it around if I needed l-r adjustment. I replaced the factory front sight with a piece of stainless and regulated the height at the range. Fortunately the rifle hit dead center l-r right off the bat. I had also thought I could add a shim on whichever side to regulate the peep.
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These Hellqvist/Norma adjustable peeps that sometimes come on the vintage Swedish rifles are good.
That Hellqvist sight is pretty funky to install - on the one example that I have here, it appears that the mounting holes are drilled and tapped vertically into the curved top surface of the rear bridge - off centre to the left and the right - but the sight is adjustable for both elevation and for windage. I got one on an 8x57 rifle from TradeEx - swapped that barrel to a decent 9.3x57 barrel that I wanted with aperture sights - seemed to work out okay. I do like the idea that it is contoured to match the rear face of that Swede stripper clip ridge - so one can retain that and load with stripper clips, if inclined to do so.
Apparently like 1920's all over again - 250 something or 280 something grain bullets - at circa 2,000 fps - stripper clip loading and aperture sights - all set to hit the bush and get a moose. In my case, it is using 285 grain lead cast bullets and fired at gophers in a pasture - I like seeing big gouts of dirt fly up - hit low and often the shrapnel will do the deed on the gopher(s).
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As explained to me by my former boss, who was a USMC Shooting Instructor on one of his tours in his younger days, Marines have used rear aperture and post front sights for more than 100 years - like you say - not sure many of them can explain the physics, but they are taught that it works. He mentioned that when in USMC, there was "their" way to use them, and every other way was wrong. So both eyes open - shooting eye trying to focus as crisply as possible on the top of that front post. Did not look AT the rear sight - you looked THROUGH it - your attention and shooting eye focus was to be on that tip top of the front sight. Apparently, your brain can learn to accept two different images from left eye and right eye - like you found out - don't argue with it - it works, and works well!!! I probably do not have a good grasp of the physics - has to do with light rays bending as they pass through a small hole - but the best focus on the top of front sight, will be when your eye is dead centre in that rear aperture - your brain / body movements figure that out, without you understanding it.
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I am sure that I read that the Hellqvist guy was making and selling those sights - then got hired by Norma - who leased, rented, bought or brow-beat that employee's patent. Until your picture, I do not think I had ever seen a close-up view with the "Norma" brand - I certainly never owned one - I just have that one with the Hellqvist name on it. I presume that means that this sight here was made before he started to work for Norma.
Page 216 of the "Crown Jewels" book shows pictures of a "Hellqvist micrometer diopter" that was made for the m96 rifles that were used for target competition by the FSR in Sweden. The note in the book says that Erik Hellqvist was a long time employee at Norma in Amotsfors, Sweden, and was still living at the time that the Crown Jewels book was written. It says that the Hellqvist target sight version started production in the 1960's.
Page 213 of the same book has a reproduction of a page of an ad by Vapen-Depoten-Falun - described by Crown Jewels author as a Swedish hunting supplies catalogue - among other things shown is that Hellqvist hunting aperture sight - was apparently called a "Jaktdiopter m/Hellqvist" - it appeared to be priced at Kr. 35, and installation was available for an additional Kr. 13.
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The dual-range (marked 100/200) Sako peep sight is probably familiar. Over the years, it was available in a few versions, but all needed a larger hole in the peep for anything but targets.
This one was designed for parallel grooves on .22s...not so familiar...and not a very good fit on the M78...replaced with a Williams.
This one was designed for parallel grooves on .22s...not so familiar...and not a very good fit on the M78...replaced with a Williams.
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