A few weeks ago while shooting sporting clays, I noticed an optical sight mounted on an offset mount, so the owner could use his left eye, to shoot off of his right shoulder. I didn't see him shoot with it, so I can't comment on how effective it was.
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A few weeks ago while shooting sporting clays, I noticed an optical sight mounted on an offset mount, so the owner could use his left eye, to shoot off of his right shoulder. I didn't see him shoot with it, so I can't comment on how effective it was.
Falconflyer
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Pretty sure I couldn't make that work but if it keeps him shooting then more power to him!
Not a hunter here, so please excuse the silly question.
Are you saying he bagged nothing, or just never reached his limit when he ran out of ammo?
Are you saying he bagged nothing, or just never reached his limit when he ran out of ammo?
Sometimes one ,sometimes the other.
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There used to be a gentleman I'd see at shoots in southern Ontario, if memory serves he was a surgeon or a specialist dealing with the brain. He had a handicap of some sort that caused him to shoot a crossover stocked gun. The gun mounted to his right shoulder but the entire gun aligned as if he was shooting from his left. He was a darned good shot too.
I have tiny factory Fiber optic sights on my target guns. I have never been drawn too them over the clay. I tried a buddies .410on the rabbit station at sporting clays. He has the super large tru glow fiber optic tube. I was intently drawn too the sight as I was swinging onto the rabbits . Missed the first time luckily enough they pair up and I caught them both on the follow up shot. It was an eye opener to me, but I still like pre mounting while referencing the beads , then just concentrating on the bird.
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Real men don't pre- mount Alan... just sayin...
Just kidding for the most part but frankly if your shotgun fits then you don't have to reference the beads when you shoulder the gun.
Real men don't pre- mount Alan... just sayin...
Just kidding for the most part but frankly if your shotgun fits then you don't have to reference the beads when you shoulder the gun.
There are targets that I premount for, because of the very limited time to acquire and shoot them, but for the most part, I shoot low gun. Then again, I am a hunter, and I shake my head when I see someone walking up on their pointer with their gun mounted.
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It was a sad day in sporting clays when they allowed pre mounting the gun in competition!
I agree, but the way that some people were setting targets , especially true pairs, made it almost a necessity.
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That's because target setting went from mimicking game bird scenarios to "lets see what we can come up with to screw the master class shooters".
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I could count on both hands and feet the number of times I've shot sporting clays but when it first started to appear I found as you said it mimicked hunting scenarios. I didn't shoot it for a number of years but when I went to shoot it again much of it was as you say it became, "let's see what we can come up with". I found that much less enjoyable even though I shot it well. I prefer the hunting styled presentations.
Low gun was hard to enforce without trained referees and squad mates were reluctant to call out fellow shooters. The score your own shoots that we see here in Canada would be a nightmare if low gun was still a rule. I remember discussing it with a few squad mates that did not receive the feedback well. Made for a quiet round in some cases. Some people that transitioned from Skeet really struggled with low gun. Target presentations were not a consideration from my experience although they have definitely gotten tougher than the early days.
I think the CPSA in the UK dropped the rule first. Then the NSCA followed in the US. The US and the UK being the two main countries that shoot English Sporting. The ASCA here in Alberta followed as well, but I cannot remember when. Most of the Sporting shot in the rest of the world follows the FITASC organization rules to some extent and the low gun rule is still followed.
I think the CPSA in the UK dropped the rule first. Then the NSCA followed in the US. The US and the UK being the two main countries that shoot English Sporting. The ASCA here in Alberta followed as well, but I cannot remember when. Most of the Sporting shot in the rest of the world follows the FITASC organization rules to some extent and the low gun rule is still followed.
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Low gun wasn't/isn't the only rule that was or is hard to enforce with self scoring. I stopped shooting registered sporting for several reasons but a main one was because I saw people breaking the rules all the time and most of these guys were shooting with buddies that wouldn't call them out on it. I've watched guys calling dead birds when there was only dust and no visible pieces. I've seen guys trapping the trigger over and over again yet getting more targets. I've twice seen instructors practicing stations at lunch time. Guys change the score card after shooting because they didn't think it wasnt scored properly, gun malfunctions, the 3 second rule, first bird established, I could go on and on! I know of one shooter who changes the score card before turning it in! Half of these guys couldn't shoot to their handicap if the person scoring for them enforced the rules.
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So you're saying there is unchecked cheating in registered Sporting Clays? Hmmm? That just might explain the reduced number of registered trap sandbaggers and "bored" registered skeet shooters who made the switch?!
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I haven't shot registered sporting in about 12 years but that's the way it used to be, don't know if it still is.
Don't get me wrong, there's lots of guys out there who know the rules and aren't breaking them and there's also guys who are breaking the rules unknowingly. It's kind of like golf in that it's up to the individual to know the various rules and play accordingly but there's lots of those that either don't care or don't want to read the rule book since it can be detrimental to their score! No one really cares how people score if they're just shooting for fun but registered shoots should be done by the rules so it's fair for everyone.
Don't get me wrong, there's lots of guys out there who know the rules and aren't breaking them and there's also guys who are breaking the rules unknowingly. It's kind of like golf in that it's up to the individual to know the various rules and play accordingly but there's lots of those that either don't care or don't want to read the rule book since it can be detrimental to their score! No one really cares how people score if they're just shooting for fun but registered shoots should be done by the rules so it's fair for everyone.
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I agree with you 100% and scorers should be trained, tested and certified as they are in registered skeet. Registered skeet was the best run system in registered shooting I ever participated in. Maybe I just hung with the right crowd in it? Maybe it has it's dark side too? If so I didn't come across it at the shoots I attended.
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