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In BC, at least, the 22 Rimfire was banned for Big Game as a Roadblock, almost anyone could afford one and it's shells, not for any lack of effectiveness. The ban was for 22 Rimfire, the others; 25, 32, 44, etc remained legal until post-WWII when "22 Rimfire" morphed into "Rimfire"

Borrowed this from the 'net, appears to be a Mossberg with the tenite forend.

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Saw two killed with heart shots from 22 WMR. 50-60 yard death sprint and tip over.

Wouldn't do or recommend such but it wasn't really up to me. People have killed much bigger than that with em.
 
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Certainly in BC there will be few, if any, left who hunted when it was legal. The fact remains the ban was thrown up as a Roadblock and nothing more.

Of course the World is full of guys who will say 22 Centerfires don't work, which is complete nonsense.

I wouldn't even hesitate to use 22 WMR on Deer.
 
Ethics goes out the window when it's a matter of feeding yourself and or your family. They used what they had at hand, and were skilled in the lethal use of such calibers. As things stand, right now, we have a wide variety of more than effective calibers to sport hunt with. Though, if times ever get tough agian, I am sure the .22 will likely be a big game cartridge once more.
 
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Ethics goes out the window when it's a matter of feeding yourself and or your family. They used what they had at hand, and were skilled in the lethal use of such calibers. As things stand, right now, we have a wide variety of more than effective calibers to sport hunt with. If times ever get tough agian, I am sure the .22 will likely be a big game cartridge once more.
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No doubt. Could see lots of em putting meat on the table during a depression or other sort of tough time as well.

Def. not arguing about the effectiveness when it comes to the 22 cals on deer. Would like a lil more sign to follow when it don't all go right tho lol.
 
How do ethics come in if nobody really has any first hand knowledge? I got a Whitetail with a 22 Hornet, it worked just fine.
 
It's like Blaze Orange, that was brought in to make Hunters visible to the Game Warden, not for any sort of "Safety".
 
Seems pretty sensible to me, really.

Its effective if your shot placement is exactingly precise. MUCH more chances of finding your deer or at least it dying a humane death if you are an inch off with a more sensible choice.

Maybe you'd never be off, but lots of others would ;)


I mean a double lung with a 22 rimfire is gonna take a LONG time to kill. So is just nicking a heart. So is missing spine on a neckshot or brain with a headshot if someone tries those.

Same with a .243 or above? Not so much.

They could have implemented the rule after a 3 day drunk. Still seems like its going to result in less wounded/unrecovered game while very slightly inconveniencing hunters.

I mean if I said "hey, I'm gonna go pop some deer with 7.62x39 Chinese surplus!" I'd call me an a-hole and think most people would too lol.
 
How do we know that say within 50 yards a 22 hollowpoint isn't effective on deer?

I shot Super X Hollowpoints into wet newspaper and was impressed. And it'll arguably penetrate better than 00 Buck.
 
Define "effective". It will kill them, sure. Under anything less than ideal circumstances? I dunno

22 vs buckshot...That's probs why theres a few of them in the shell. Penetrate better? Probably, but depending on how much buckshot actually hits a deer, probably doesn't really matter at all either.

And plenty of us have probably shot lots of other animals with 22 hollowpoints that were much smaller than deer and can do a wee bit of extrapolating.

Like say grouse, and muskrat and beavers and who knows what else. No doubt with the way people shoot just about everything out there, lots of smaller animals have fallen to 22s. The wounds caused by 22 rimfires are hardly new to any of us right?

22 magnum will do some damage alright but again, gonna be lots of cases where you are an inch or two off and something else woulda not had a deer dying a mile away.

I'd still say hunting with 7.62x39mm surplus FMJ is a d*ck move and its probably better than a 22 rimfire lol. You get a runner cause your shot wasn't perfect, good luck finding him!
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7drG-ZxI-4

I dunno, not really seeing "deer killer" written all over that, man lol. that's lame.

At 20 yards? Flite Controls like a 6-7" group if that lol. When is a deer not dying after catching a charge of 00 at 20 yards? 40? Well, why argue between two choices that suck if thats the case lol
 
MiG25 said:
How do we know that say within 50 yards a 22 hollowpoint isn't effective on deer?

I shot Super X Hollowpoints into wet newspaper and was impressed. And it'll arguably penetrate better than 00 Buck.
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I’ve skinned out 2 deer that had 40 grain LR slugs just under the hide.
I’ve no idea of what range they were shot from but penetration was near zero.
There again I’ve also killed steers for slaughter with one well placed 22 LR shot to the skull.
Based on that I’d say the 22 LR is highly effective on deer if the range is 2 yards or less and you use head shots.
 
A 22 will completely penetrate the knuckle of a beef.

Most of what is "known" about Buckshot is wrong, bigger shot and tighter chokes are the answer. Nothing is worse than a cylinder bore.
 
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I’ve skinned out 2 deer that had 40 grain LR slugs just under the hide.
I’ve no idea of what range they were shot from but penetration was near zero.
There again I’ve also killed steers for slaughter with one well placed 22 LR shot to the skull.
Based on that I’d say the 22 LR is highly effective on deer if the range is 2 yards or less and you use head shots.
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Sounds about right.

Precisely through the brain or precisely to stop a heart. Otherwise its dying in the next postal code. Maybe in a half hour, maybe tomorrow.

22 mag seems like a better but still awful choice. See gel test video above for completely lackluster effects if not placed perfectly.

Maybe 00 buck sucks at range. But 22 rimfire sucks compared to any more powerful option too.

An icepick is "effective" if you put it where you need to put your 22.



Think I'll make a 380 Auto chambered rifle to hunt deer with :) lol
 
"smack" as a killing mechanism :) Maybe it does, but we're not talking about killing on pure frontal diameter here either way.

Both suck. Arguing over which is better for medium game is entertaining lol
 
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