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I have just bought a CZ457 MTR Varmint and would like to shoot precision 22LR.
What ammo do you find best for it ?
I will be shooting for fun but am looking for accuracy and consistent groups.
I doubt I will be shooting beyond 100 yds.
Thanks.
 
It depends on the indidual barrel. Mine doesn't like SK anything, doesn't mind some Eley. It's seeming to like the Sellier and Bellot Canadian Match.
Mine also shoots between 50 and 100fps faster than the box velocity, with any ammo I've tried. One of the other guys I'm shooting with has the same barrel but his loves SK, and shoots box velocity. It really is a trial kind of thing.
 
Try to expensive stuff from Lapua and Eley. It could change your life. Make sure to season the bore with 10-20 shots first. I try not to count $$$ when toss 2-3 empty boxes in the trash.
 
I was pleasantly surprised last weekend to find out my IBI/457 shoots CCI Std very well, like about the same as it does Sk. I am confident enough in it to try the 6x5 Challenge next calm day I get.
Point being don't just assume Gucci brands are gonna shoot best, just try a bunch of stuff.
 
You have to try a bunch of ammo to determine what your rifle is going to like...no two are the same.

And if you have a chronograph, use it to deterime exactly how each type is performing in your rifle.
I did this with my new Bergara and found that for the money, RWS Special Match was providing the exact same performance as the Lapua Center X for $19/box less!
SK Long Range Match was just a hair behind that.
 
I think Tesro sells a mixed package of assorted higher-end target ammo - you get a box or two of Eley, Tennex, SK, RWS etc etc. That's where I'd start if I were you.
 
100 yd ? thtas pretty easy with a number of choices

Norma Tac is a good one

SteveB, which weight AE did you have luck with? 38 gr works in one of my 22s, 40 gr works better in another
 
It's true that different ammos should be tested, but it's a bit misleading to suggest that no two rifles are the same. While bores can be sometimes viewed like fingerprints in that no two people have identical fingerprints (not even identical twins), and no two bores are identical, fingerprints, like bores, have similarities. These similarities often mean that they shoot equally similar ammo similarly. In other words, two bores can shoot the same ammo with results so similar that they seem virtually identical.

What's important is not the brand or make of ammo -- be it Eley or SK or Lapua or Norma or RWS. In the end, what's crucial is the quality of the ammo. Inexpensive or bulk .22LR ammo invariably shoots poorly. Same for high velocity and inexpensive standard velocity.

Ammo quality varies by batch or lot regardless which manufacturer produced it. For example, two different lots of any SK variety -- whether it's SK Standard Plus, SK Rifle Match or some other SK -- can perform very differently. Most will perform similarly, but some may be better than others.

The long and short of it is that every match ammo or entry level match ammo maker will produce ammo that will perform fairly well in almost any rifle.

The most productive course of action, especially at times like now when ammo availability is not good, may be to get what ammo you can that fits your budget. Don't buy ammo thinking that more expensive grades will surely outperform less expensive ones. It may happen, but it may not (especially now when the best lots of more expensive grades are almost certainly long since gone).

Don't worry about chronographing ammo. With entry level match ammos (e.g. SK, less expensive Eley and RWS), chronograph figures don't necessarily reflect performance results. In other words, good chrony figures don't always mean good results on target. Rely instead on what you see happening downrange.
 
I have just bought a CZ457 MTR Varmint and would like to shoot precision 22LR.
What ammo do you find best for it ?
I will be shooting for fun but am looking for accuracy and consistent groups.
I doubt I will be shooting beyond 100 yds.
Thanks.

I would focus on finding a good ammo that you’re able to get a good supply of. No sense in wasting time finding a good Lot of RWS if there’s only a brick around of it and the next LOT isn’t as consistent. People get crazy trying to figure out what their rifle likes best when in reality it’s what you’re able to get your hands on. Even CCI Blazer will surprise folks and it’s not match ammo. CCI SV is the golden standard. Would start with that and get some decent Chrono Numbers to have a baseline of consistency in your velocity. It’ll explain why your group looks like a caterpillar @ 100. Clean your Chamber and Crown after every session. Season your barrel past 2 bricks to see how it really performs. There’s so many threads on this very subject it’s giving folks mixed feelings. Good that folks are getting into precision shooting. Bad that the search function isn’t used to it’s full ability.
YoDave and Mcarbo sell a trigger spring that will allow for less than 1# of trigger pull weight. This will knock you out of production class if you ever shoot PRS.
 
As others have stated, you have to see what yours likes.

I have had great results out of two factory barrels (and IBI and Anschutz barrels) with BBM (no longer available unfortunately) but RWS Semi auto is it's equivalent.

Norma Tac 22 has also been solid for the price
 
A recent order for Target Shooting Products was circulated amongst fellow shooters.

Only one was willing to pony up for four bricks of Eley TEAM.
Time to test something different so the case was filled out with four bricks of TENEX (different lots) and two bricks of CenterX (two different lots).

In one rifle you might swear the ammo was made in different factories.

The TENEX in one rifle was consistently just over an inch at 100 yards.

Two of the lots of TENEX were two lots apart off the same machine but out of a different rifle there was a night and day similarity.

One of the rifles will like it . . . it is just a matter of fun and money!
 
I have just bought a CZ457 MTR Varmint and would like to shoot precision 22LR.
What ammo do you find best for it ?
I will be shooting for fun but am looking for accuracy and consistent groups.
I doubt I will be shooting beyond 100 yds.
Thanks.

A nice informative article to read when looking for accuracy and precision. You can disregard the rifle brand mentioned but focus on the section discussing barrel seasoning.

Good looking.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/a...lG-hOIKcvNitNk0U13h9RpQ5mQ-OKivfJy3drB4s6KVOA
 
A nice informative article to read when looking for accuracy and precision. You can disregard the rifle brand mentioned but focus on the section discussing barrel seasoning.

Good looking.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/a...lG-hOIKcvNitNk0U13h9RpQ5mQ-OKivfJy3drB4s6KVOA

According to the author of the article linked, Gregory J. Roman, his cleaning/seasoning methods actually changes the behaviour of the ammo. He says that properly seasoning the barrel requires no less than a 1000 rounds., and that his methods produced "great groups at 50 and 100". That's not all. Roman says ammo performance can be enhanced because his cleaning/seasoning method will improve it's performance over the chronograph.

This is potentially significant and amazing. In Roman's own words, using his method "produces extremely low ES and SD numbers over the chronograph which translates to extremely consistent and predictable ballistics at long range."

In short, if Roman can be believed, his cleaning/seasoning regimen alone will actually alter the MV of individual rounds so that they will be more alike (lower ES and SD numbers).

Who'd have thought that ammo MV has less to do with the rounds themselves and more to do with bore cleaning/seasoning practices?
 
I read that article back when it first came out and I discounted most of his opinions after looking at his pics. The 'Carbon ring' he shows is barely a stain and not an accuracy issue. His pic of a 'seasoned bore' shows hardly any rifling, just smears. The 1000-round 'seasoning regimen' needed to build up the complete bore just sounds un-realistic. Maybe he has 'stock' in an ammo vendor ?
PS - I agree with G's analysis also.
 
My 20" MTR shoots SK RM and SK LRM awesomely, however, the long-range match will go super sonic in my barrel during the summer, during the cooler months, it shoots about 1080 FPS.
 
My 20" MTR shoots SK RM and SK LRM awesomely, however, the long-range match will go super sonic in my barrel during the summer, during the cooler months, it shoots about 1080 FPS.

If the ammo shoots well when it's a bit cooler in the spring or fall, going supersonic or faster than the speed of sound in the summer isn't a problem.

Keep in mind that it's when a projectile slows down into the transonic zone (which itself is about 890 to 1340 fps) that it may experience accuracy-robbing transonic turbulence. Since your .22LR round spends almost all it's useful flight time within the transonic zone of speeds, it won't experience transonic turbulence.
 
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