The Ugliest of Stepchildren The Ruger 1022 Charger

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I dont think anyone is going to argue with me that the Ruger 10/22 Charger is probably the ugliest and most uncomfortable PISTOL to shoot.
and yes, I know, we don't like to speak its name up here North of the border because of all the headaches is caused us with magazines.

but.....
and there is always a but!
I have one.
several years ago I purchased one from my LGS that had been sitting there for a looooooooooooooong time.
i basically got it for cost and this was way before the prices of all guns doubled and tripled.
so I got it cheap.

and I LOVE the 10/22 platform, I have a LOT of 10/22's and I love to tinker with them and build them and fondle them - well you get the point.
except for my 10/22 Charger.
that thing has been to the range 1 time back when I bought it and has been in the safe ever since.
what a waste.
so I'm stuck with it.
today I was thinking to myself that I should try to do something with it.
but what?

well, i think i may have an answer.
i was doing some internet browsing and i came across this fella's build out of the states.

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upon looking at the build i noticed that he used what looks to be a old Butler Creek folding stock.
well, as my fortune would have it, i actually HAVE an old Butler Creek stock just sitting in my parts bin that has been there for years, it came off of one of my dads rifles.

so what i could do, since my stock has stainless hardware, is pick up a 8" stainless bull barrel from.... lets say Dlask and put it on the Charger and put all of that into the Butler Creek stock.
now - i would need to hog out the barrel channel and add a little plastic to the end where i cut the stock down.... but i think its do able!

and - more importantly, it would make the Charger USABLE!
now i don't know if any of you have tried the Charger but its too big to shoot as a pistol and its too small to shoot as a rifle.
he somehow managed to find that sweet spot where it is just totally wrong.

what I'm working with:

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so did i miss anything?
its still going to be a pistol, no changing that.
the stock barrel is 10" and I'm going to replace it with a 8" bull, so still way over the 106mm minimum required by law (203 to be exact).
there is no Overal Length Minimum that needs to be hit as its a pistol not a rifle.

maybe a hand stop added to the underside of the stock?

I know, this project is a Frankenstein but i just really wanted to do something to make poorly neglected pistol of mine at least have a chance at coming out of the safe more than the never that it has right now.

thoughts?
comments?
concerns?
 
I was never a real fan of the butler creek folder although they do look cool to me. The rifle flexes in the stock. I actually inserted a screw which hooks in at the trigger guard to make it a little more rigid.
 
I've often wondered how the charger got to be classified as a pistol - now I may be wrong - but I thought in order to be a pistol, it must be reasonably capable of being operated by one hand. The charger seems too long from the factory to be operated as a pistol.
 
I like your project but I've been on the hunt for one of those stocks for atleast a year now lol should be a nice little plinker

Better post pics when you're done!
 
I've often wondered how the charger got to be classified as a pistol - now I may be wrong - but I thought in order to be a pistol, it must be reasonably capable of being operated by one hand. The charger seems too long from the factory to be operated as a pistol.

classification is what the manufacturer lists it as when they ship it our from the factory.
it could be a pistol with a 10 foot barrel and a 5 foot stock but if they list it as a pistol then its a pistol.
seeing as their is no difference between the charger and a normal 10/22 other than the serial number being registered as a pistol - I wonder how hard it would be to swapped over to non-restricted with a normal barrel put on it and a full sized stock.
or.... vis/versa, you take a normal 10/22 and put a 8" Dlask barrel on it and cut off the butt stock and your actually then shorter then the Charger is from the factory, could you than have your rifle reclassified as a pistol?

of course you can, its just a matter of having the paperwork done and having one of those fancy fella's check it and sign off on it.

i currently have a Dlask receiver with a 8" barrel on it and its on a Boyd stock, The package is just over the minimum length.
but realistically I could undo 2 screws and put that into the butler creek stock or the charger stock and it would be shorter than the Charger is from the factory, as the factory Charger barrel is 10".
 
classification is what the manufacturer lists it as when they ship it our from the factory.
it could be a pistol with a 10 foot barrel and a 5 foot stock but if they list it as a pistol then its a pistol.
seeing as their is no difference between the charger and a normal 10/22 other than the serial number being registered as a pistol - I wonder how hard it would be to swapped over to non-restricted with a normal barrel put on it and a full sized stock.
or.... vis/versa, you take a normal 10/22 and put a 8" Dlask barrel on it and cut off the butt stock and your actually then shorter then the Charger is from the factory, could you than have your rifle reclassified as a pistol?

of course you can, its just a matter of having the paperwork done and having one of those fancy fella's check it and sign off on it.

i currently have a Dlask receiver with a 8" barrel on it and its on a Boyd stock, The package is just over the minimum length.
but realistically I could undo 2 screws and put that into the butler creek stock or the charger stock and it would be shorter than the Charger is from the factory, as the factory Charger barrel is 10".

In Canada it is not possible to convert a restricted firearm (any handgun) to a non restricted firearm (a rifle)... restricted classification from the factory remains with that action forever.
 
I'd be tempted to buy a cheap wood stock from the EE and chop it into a birds head grip and tune up the fore stock to match..... :)

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I couldn't find any birdshead custom chop jobs with an image search, but this pirate looking model is kind of cool.... :)

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I'd be tempted to buy a cheap wood stock from the EE and chop it into a birds head grip and tune up the fore stock to match..... :)

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I couldn't find any birdshead custom chop jobs with an image search, but this pirate looking model is kind of cool.... :)

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if I cant get the butler creek to work out my fallback is something along those lines.
 
In Canada it is not possible to convert a restricted firearm (any handgun) to a non restricted firearm (a rifle)... restricted classification from the factory remains with that action forever.

not possible or has not been attempted yet?
cause you CAN convert a restricted rifle into a non-restricted rifle.
P90 by adding a 16.5" barrel for example.
you can also convert a 12-6 prohib into a normal restricted by re-barreling to over 106mm.
the Charger is a one that I think you probably could if you had money to waste - the reason I say this is because I could swap my Charger receiver with any of my other 10/22 receivers and go and shoot gophers or punch paper for the rest of my life and no one would ever take a 2nd look - because they are identical receivers.
 
... i don't know if any of you have tried the Charger but its too big to shoot as a pistol and its too small to shoot as a rifle....

...I know, this project is a Frankenstein but i just really wanted to do something to make poorly neglected pistol of mine at least have a chance at coming out of the safe more than the never that it has right now....

I like the concept. Definitely the most useful format for a Charger that I've seen. I regret passing on a great deal on a Charger during the panic, I had a vague notion to do something similar. Set it up something like a subgun/PDW, I think that's where you should look for inspiration.

Personally, I'd keep the factory barrel and try it for fit and looks with just a chopped BC stock first. Before you go to a bull barrel. Inletting the BC stock might not go so easy, and the 10" might look just fine or even great. You could look at spending your barrel budget on a compact chassis that would really be more attractive and functional than the BC folder.

Regardless, I'd probably find a way to put some kind of hand stop on the underside. Something lower profile like the AFG or the XTM panel with the bump on it. Or just a rail with a pistol light, might work okay. Or a laser if that floats your boat... Just something for the support hand to index on.
 
I've often wondered how the charger got to be classified as a pistol - now I may be wrong - but I thought in order to be a pistol, it must be reasonably capable of being operated by one hand. The charger seems too long from the factory to be operated as a pistol.

The same way the RRA LAR15 is a pistol because they say it is.

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That retarded charger should never gave been allowed into Canada. Ruger must gave been forced to employ some VPs red haired retarded stepchild to have this abortion drop on the market like a dipper leader drops to his knees at the pmo gloryhole
 
That retarded charger should never gave been allowed into Canada. Ruger must gave been forced to employ some VPs red haired retarded stepchild to have this abortion drop on the market like a dipper leader drops to his knees at the pmo gloryhole

You have a point. I wish to point out too, if CBSA actually did its job and prevented illegal import of the Challenger BX whatever +10 pistol magazines into Canada a whole lot of extra grief would have been avoided.
Yet no one brings up border control issues?
 
Until there's a long gun registry...


Bite your Tongue . what a joke that so called Registry was and you and the rest of us know this is a fact. what a waste of money and resources . I'd be looking into converting that thing into a rifle . non restricted . if he wants to shoot it more . and not on a range .
 
Bite your Tongue . what a joke that so called Registry was and you and the rest of us know this is a fact. what a waste of money and resources . I'd be looking into converting that thing into a rifle . non restricted . if he wants to shoot it more . and not on a range .

Agreed, on all counts. Keep those restricted parts for the occasional dress up party!
 
Warning: Rant.

I see that people are having fun with them but that otherwise stupid and useless model of 10/22 was what enabled RCMP Labs to prohibit larger capacity magazines for the real rifles and I wish all Chargers could be taken to hell and burned in a big bonfire there. However, I would settle for a good asskicking for the person who thought them up and then got them on the market.
 
would be interesting to know how many Chargers are in Canada.
we should start a GoFundMe and try to buy them all back and then destroy them all, then lobby the Gov't to lift the ban on the magazines since all the offending guns would be gone.
 
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