I usally suggest a 30-06 to a first time hunter and try to talk them out of something like a 338 or any other big magnum. A freind of mine has his heart set on a 300Win Mag but is upset casue it wont hold more then 4 shots i keep telling himt o learn to shoot and you usally wont need more then one well placed shot.
some people give bad advice to first time hunters here.
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manbearpig
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thats great, but i think its safe to assume that the AVERAGE person who asks 'what should i get as my first rifle' doesnt have reloading equipment.
I must say, i agree to a degree that magnums aren't the way to go for newbies, but to continually say 30-06, 308 etc is the only way, is boring. The guy has to go to a gun shop to buy his gun, he can buy ammo there too. I see no issue reccomending a 280 to anybody, or a whelen. You can mail order ammo anywhere in Canada, and if the guy has the tech sense to log on to gunnutz, he can go to a website and order some ammo. If he is trying to keep his first gun cheap, he will likely end up with a fairly "vanilla" chambering, as the more exotic rounds are usually found in a bit higher end rifles.
.416 chiming in!!!!!
Yes it was a joke. As I dont think the 300WM should even be attempted for a first time shooter. Heck the 30-06 in the wrong type of rifle can even be bad for a first time shooter.
Personally I would suggest a .243 or .257 roberts +P or any other rifle in that caliber
Yes it was a joke. As I dont think the 300WM should even be attempted for a first time shooter. Heck the 30-06 in the wrong type of rifle can even be bad for a first time shooter.
Personally I would suggest a .243 or .257 roberts +P or any other rifle in that caliber
Yes and without mentioning any names I've seen people push the 28 gauge when the poster specifically mentioned waterfowling.
manbearpig
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sure if you have 30 guns in your safe its boring, but as your first rifle thats not a factor.
for the record i think a .22LR makes the best first gun...
after youve shot a few 500 round bricks that cost you a whopping $20 each, you can decide what rifle to get next
for the record i think a .22LR makes the best first gun...
after youve shot a few 500 round bricks that cost you a whopping $20 each, you can decide what rifle to get next
manbearpig
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he was joking
i think this thread is more about the .35 Whelans, heh. i know some of you guys mean well with these suggestions but come on, i had to roll my eyes at the .35 Whelan suggestion for someones FIRST GUN.
when choosing your first gun, 'boring' is a good thing. when you already have a bunch of guns in your safe you can start experimenting with more exotic calibers.
i think this thread is more about the .35 Whelans, heh. i know some of you guys mean well with these suggestions but come on, i had to roll my eyes at the .35 Whelan suggestion for someones FIRST GUN.
when choosing your first gun, 'boring' is a good thing. when you already have a bunch of guns in your safe you can start experimenting with more exotic calibers.
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I have been disappointed for some time with the general lack of maturity shown by far too many of the posters on this site. Newbies deserve better advice than smart a$$ answers and "jokes". Some of the posters here need to get out more and spend a lot less time on their computers.
joe-nwt said:
If it appears I am getting too worked up.. I think you need to get your head examined. I'm stating a truth.
Gatehouse said:
Well if you like to give vague jokes when a first time hunter is learning to hunt/shoot, go ahead. Won't get any praise from me.
dumbdawg said:
Again... a mentor.
This person has no supervision. He just got his PAL/hunting license.
manbearpig said:
Thank you. Move past the .416... apparently I have no sense of humor and missed it as being a joke.
The other suggestions still stand true.
toddbartell said:
I see that you are joking.
If you are not, I see he doesn't practice good ethics.
longwalker said:
At least a couple people are seeing what I'm trying to bring up.
I think the problem is that there are quite a few, young inexperienced shooters giving advice here (dumb responses) and the older guys are getting sick of answering the same questions over and over again (sarcastic responses). I would fall into the joke/sarcastic class here and am not repentant.
All the information is available for anyone who would take the time to look, thus saving the age old question of .... "Is the 30/06 enough for moose?"
Google is your friend here. I'm surprised with the younger, supposedly more computer savvy, bunch here on CGN that they they don't know how to do a proper search and glean information for themselves.
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I'd say starting out you should go with something like a .243 or .270 for deer, sheep, and such...and .222, .22-250, or .223 for varminting. Then if you want to get into bigger game like moose and bear you should move up to the .30's...i.e. .30-30, .30-06, .303 Brit, .300 Sav. Beyond that, if you're thinking about going to Africa then maybe the .416 would be good, or maybe even a .375 H&H or a .458 Lott. But, those are for more "seasoned" shoulders!
