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A quick and very incomplete perusal of this page revealed no reference to modern (inline) muzzleloaders. Are they not of interest to Canadians or are they prohibited for some reason? Just curious as I am from North Carolina and inlines are very popular here in the states, for lots of reasons but principally because there are special muzzleloader seasons, which allow us to extend our whitetail hunting. My current ML rifle interest is the relatively new rifle from CVA. It is a 40 cal and with a 150 gr load of Blackhorn 209 powder and using a 225 gr Powerbelt bullet, results in a muzzle velocity of over 2800 fps. These bullets have a BC of .360 and the external ballistics allow for effective ranges up to 400 yards. Hope this post does not display my ignorance too terribly but if it does, feel free to chastise me at will.
 
I hunt with an inline, it's the only legal firearm for deer hunting where I hunt. Some WMUs only allow blackpowder for deer hunting and others offer separate seasons.
 
I think the main reason for modern inlines is that they are allowed in the special muzzle loading seasons in some areas. Here in BC, there are no special seasons except for archery. so there is no incentive for them. Even though I don't hunt any more, using a modern inline would not appeal to the aesthetics of hunting with a traditional muzzle loader. Also modern inlines are not accepted in the competitions at our rendezvous. The main reason for a lack of inline postings on gunnutz is probably just a lack of interest

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They are big in SW Ontario. I own 3 modern in-line muzzleloaders and all of my hunting buddies own at least one. One of my friends shot his first deer with a CVA Wolf during muzzleloader season with my powder and bullets!
 
Concur with the others, I expect inline muzzle loaders once they are set up are a one or two shots per year proposition to the average hunter and not much else. I had an early Knight many years ago, exchanged some sights and ignition bits, parted company with it after a couple years. When the CVA came on sale last year locally I bought one on a whim and put about five shots through it this fall at the range to get it on paper with pellets and Hornady XTP sabots.
 
I have one too. Just a cva wolf. Nothing special but it is quite handy.

I'd guess you don't see much about them here because they're not that interesting to talk about. They are exceptionally utilitarian.
 
In our area it is Shotgun and ML

Out of 11 guys, 9 shoot smokeless custom ML’s instead of shotguns.

458 and no sabots. They are a great tool.
 
I plan on building a bullet to bore smokeless muzzleloader in the new year. I'll be using a savage 110 action and an arrowhead barrel.

Just out of curiosity why would someone in North Carolina be a member of a Canadian shooting forum?

We have all October here to take advantage of muzzleloader season.
 
Lots of modern in-line muzzle loaders around here. As was mentioned some WMU's only allow ML during the rifle 2 wk season. Plus we get another wk in Dec with them.
 
I just got my first muzzleloader deer on the Ontario opener 125yards in the woods with a wolf and a 240 .44 XTP. I'm already looking to upgrade to a CVA with a muzzle break as the only powder I can find is T7 and it leaves such a big smoke cloud you can't see if the deers hit or where it's running. The muzzle break should allow the smoke to bleed off to the side.
 
I personally think that modern inlines defeat the purpose of having a muzzle loading season. If the idea is to allow hunting with less pressure on the animals, then having guns that are almost as effective as modern cartridge guns totally defeats the purpose. It should be limited to black powder and non-magnified sights only.
(Edit: There's no ML only season where I live, so it doesn't affect me in anyway..I still hunt with PRB and iron sights regardless)
 
savagelh said:
I plan on building a bullet to bore smokeless muzzleloader in the new year. I'll be using a savage 110 action and an arrowhead barrel.

Just out of curiosity why would someone in North Carolina be a member of a Canadian shooting forum?

We have all October here to take advantage of muzzleloader season.
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That’s how I built mine.

Luke is a fantastic fellow.

I always wanted to go to one of his 500 yard competitions!

The Brux battles he sells are tough to beat.
 
JakobS said:
I personally think that modern inlines defeat the purpose of having a muzzle loading season. If the idea is to allow hunting with less pressure on the animals, then having guns that are almost as effective as modern cartridge guns totally defeats the purpose. It should be limited to black powder and non-magnified sights only.
(Edit: There's no ML only season where I live, so it doesn't affect me in anyway..I still hunt with PRB and iron sights regardless)
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You still only get one shot…

As for accuracy, our smokeless sabotless builds would put most CF guns to shame at 300 yards - it’s not about that, it’s just very effective but still only one shot.
 
JakobS said:
I personally think that modern inlines defeat the purpose of having a muzzle loading season. If the idea is to allow hunting with less pressure on the animals, then having guns that are almost as effective as modern cartridge guns totally defeats the purpose. It should be limited to black powder and non-magnified sights only.
(Edit: There's no ML only season where I live, so it doesn't affect me in anyway..I still hunt with PRB and iron sights regardless)
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Absolutely with you, JacobS. Inlines are muzzleloaders in name only. PRB and flint or percussion with open sights are the original reason for a special M/L season. Modern inlines with scopes are as effective as many cartridge rifles so much easier to learn to use for those only interested in an extended season for big game rather than participating in the more challenging tradition of hunting with a longrifle, plains rifle or the like. Not a whole lot different than the way archery as gone from longbows and recurves to compound bows and now crossbows with scopes... Technology has been substituted for hunting and shooting skills.
 
One will never know the true spirt of hunting with a muzzleloader until he hunts with a flintlock or a traditional percussion muzzleloader.A modern inline muzzleloader especially a scoped one differs very little from a centerfire rifle to the point of why really bother.The only answer to that is for most because I get to shoot an extra deer and I have no interest in the history of traditional muzzleloaders as they are more bothersome to load and shoot.
 
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