Shotgun fit and finish

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Received a brand new shotgun from a dealer on here. Upon closer inspection the forearm is rubbing the barrel and taking off the bluing. Dealer basically told me to pound sand and that’s normal operation as long as gun shoots fine (haven’t even shot it yet)
Am I overreacting by thinking a forearm shouldn’t rub the barrel straight out of box? Thanks
 
Is the dealer also the manufacturer? If not, bring this up with them. Maybe you have a warranty claim. Curious to know the model and if this is a common design flaw.
 
Change your expectations. If you use it “racking” it will show signs of use. If you want something better than turkey or China payup
 
Grain said:
Looks pretty normal to me for a pump shotgun.
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Agreed.

The arms that move the bolt to the rear need to have enough play to operate properly. The shooter will rotate the forearm a bit in normal use. Material can be removed from the forearm so it does not touch the barrel, but this allows the shooter to rotate the forearm more which can cause binding during operation. You will also see wear on the arms as they pass thru the receiver, this too is normal.

The forearm might have shifted a bit at time of installation. Look downwards at the forearm, check the gap between the barrel and forearm, they should be very similar in width. They are almost never exact, but if the gap is considerably wider on one side than the other an adjustment can be made. Loosen the nut, adjust the forearm, tighten the nut.
 
m1008 said:
Change your expectations. If you use it “racking” it will show signs of use. If you want something better than turkey or China payup
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Well clearly I’m not expecting it to be as nice as my any of my benelli or beretta shotguns.
The closest comparison to this gun is my mossberg 88 which has had no issues of the sorts and was a fair bit cheaper. I’ve handled a few buddies pump guns out bird hunting and I can’t say I’ve ever seen any forearms that rub on the barrel deemed as normal. I guess these guns are just POS if that is considered normal.
 
What is the brand? Most likely the forend is rotated a bit on the action bar tube, you will need to loosen the forend tube nut and rotate it till it’s got equal gaps on either side of the barrel. If it wasn’t set up properly at the manufacturer it could do what you’re seeing. Or the tube nut wasn’t tight enough and it’s shifted while you racked it, touch up the blueing with some cold blue and shoot it. It’s just going to get finish wear on the action bars and mar tube from being cycled anyway, so it’s not that big of a deal.

The first scratch or ding is the worst, after that it’s just honest wear as far as I look at it.
 
Butcherbill said:
What is the brand? Most likely the forend is rotated a bit on the action bar tube, you will need to loosen the forend tube nut and rotate it till it’s got equal gaps on either side of the barrel. If it wasn’t set up properly at the manufacturer it could do what you’re seeing. Or the tube nut wasn’t tight enough and it’s shifted while you racked it, touch up the blueing with some cold blue and shoot it. It’s just going to get finish wear on the action bars and mar tube from being cycled anyway, so it’s not that big of a deal.

The first scratch or ding is the worst, after that it’s just honest wear as far as I look at it.
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I did try adjusting it, it just goes back to how it was. I realize I can mess around with it to make it work (like sanding it down a bit) but seems to me that a manufacturer would try a little harder than to tell you to pound sand.
It would be like buying a brand new truck off the dealership with tires that have 1/2 tread “well they are just gonna wear down anyways who cares if they are new or not truck still drives”
 
Your analogy doesn’t make sense. You bought a cheap gun made in a second rate country. The dealer nor the distributor built the gun. Some stuff I refuse to buy because of who the distributor is (think about that)

Yes it’s poor business practices to tell you to pound sand, it’s also poor business practice to carry literal junk. If you guys wouldn’t buy this junk it wouldn’t be sold.

Please enlighten me, why would you buy this over proven designs backed up by an available parts supply. Mav 88, moss 500, 870 this list goes on
 
m1008 said:
Your analogy doesn’t make sense. You bought a cheap gun made in a second rate country. The dealer nor the distributor built the gun. Some stuff I refuse to buy because of who the distributor is (think about that)

Yes it’s poor business practices to tell you to pound sand, it’s also poor business practice to carry literal junk. If you guys wouldn’t buy this junk it wouldn’t be sold.

Please enlighten me, why would you buy this over proven designs backed up by an available parts supply. Mav 88, moss 500, 870 this list goes on
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I have seen some guys say positive things about these guns, was more of an impulse purchase. Won’t be happening again and I definitely won’t be purchasing from that particular dealer off here again.
 
Kyle_4 said:
I did try adjusting it, it just goes back to how it was. I realize I can mess around with it to make it work (like sanding it down a bit) but seems to me that a manufacturer would try a little harder than to tell you to pound sand.
It would be like buying a brand new truck off the dealership with tires that have 1/2 tread “well they are just gonna wear down anyways who cares if they are new or not truck still drives”
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You still haven’t told us the brand of shotgun we’re talking about, so was it the dealer or the manufacturer that said pound sand? Cause the dealer has not hand in the quality control end of the manufacturing process.

If this is some budget Turkish shotgun then your pretty much going to have to expect this type of thing, Turkish guns are generally not very well built, hell I have a pos Turkish 1911 that I thankfully got for free. They have next to no parts support and fit and finish issues like this don’t surprise me.

This is like buying a new Ford Taurus car and wondering why it’s not as nice as the 5.0L Mustang, if you want to put in a vehicle analogy.
 
Janeau said:
Same here. If OP plan to use it instead of leaving it in the safe to look at it..it does not matter at all.
It will get more wear and tear with use.
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I will definitely be using this gun, why else would you buy it? This seems to be going over your head...do you purchase a new vehicle with scratches on it and accept it as good? Tire rubs on the inside of wheel well while turning left..."oh well it drives"

Butcherbill said:
You still haven’t told us the brand of shotgun we’re talking about, so was it the dealer or the manufacturer that said pound sand? Cause the dealer has not hand in the quality control end of the manufacturing process.
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It is a canuck shotgun, I didn't expect perfect when I purchased it but I did expect a little better than rubbing right out of the box. Lesson learned, dont buy turkish shotguns
 
It's common on a pump. The origin of its make has nothing to do with how a pump works. My bps has wear from the action as does my Ithaca 37 my wingmasters my multiple mossbergs my model 12 my Beretta 151 and my Turkish regulator. They make gun oil for a reason. Apply it and use the gun.
 
brybenn said:
It's common on a pump. The origin of its make has nothing to do with how a pump works. My bps has wear from the action as does my Ithaca 37 my wingmasters my multiple mossbergs my model 12 my Beretta 151 and my Turkish regulator. They make gun oil for a reason. Apply it and use the gun.
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You put gun oil on your forearm where it rubs on the barrel? Don't think that's gonna do much good.
 
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