All-New: Type 81M

MrX1021 said:
First type 81 purchase, been waiting for months because I didn't want to overpay on GP. Fixed stock Order #268** ordered on March 12, received on March 25 (shipping delay, original date for delivery was March 22 end of day to BC)

Barrel looked bent to the right at first, but I noticed that the sight at the end of the barrel was secured to the far right. After realigning it to the center, the barrel visually looks straight. I'll field strip it and measure for deviation when I have time.

Is it normal for the factory to install the sight all the way to one side? In my case it was to the far right and the barrel appeared to be curved to the right.
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My front sight was way off to left...no biggie.
 
apexanimal said:
That's how rifles are zeroed...you need to move either the front post or the rear sight left and right to zero for windage...the t81 has a fixed rear sight that only changes elevation (up down). Therefore the front sight post is moved left and right to zero for windage (left right). Congrats, your rifle is probably now way off because you screwed around with it without understanding how it works. This is what happens when people spew misinformation, people believe it. I'd recommend moving the post back as near as you can to where it was from the factory or else you will be shooting very far to the right.
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Do you really think these rifles were test fired and zero'd ?? Lol
 
Arrived this afternoon.

A few comments - comparing to my T81 SA

Not a fan of the fat lower wood, might shave it a bit when I refinish it like the SA I did.
Folder is a bit off when folded, maybe 1/16-1/8" one way - who cares.......not me
Folder has slight play up and down when locked out. Seems just fine.

Love the front sight placement compared to the SA.
LOP is better on the folder than the SA for a tall person like myself.
Cheek weld is fine on the folder. Am going to paracord the left side rail of the folder, like 05RAV did in his post 2109
Larger Mag release paddle is better than the SA, but mags are very tight ATM. They should get better with use.

I put a piece of stick on felt on the butt plate to keep it from whacking in to the bottom wood when folded.

Everything is tight, no big issues really.

It's a keeper. Thanks TI.

Now to wait for the slant compensator on a different order.

Will clean and shoot before I tear down to refinish the wood.





 
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Paul_T said:
Arrived this afternoon.

A few comments - comparing to my T81 SA

Not a fan of the fat lower wood, might shave it a bit when I refinish it like the SA I did.
Folder is a bit off when folded, maybe 1/16-1/8" one way - who cares.......not me
Folder has slight play up and down when locked out. Seems just fine.

LOP is better on the folder than the T81SA for a tall person like myself.
Cheek weld is fine on the folder. Am going to paracord the left side rail of the folder, like 05RAV did in his post 2109
Larger Mag release paddle is better than the SA, but mags a very tight ATM. They should get better with use.

I put a piece of stick on felt on the butt pad to keep it from whacking in to the bottom wood when folded.

Everything is tight, no big issues really.

It's a keeper. Thanks TI.

Now to wait for the slant compensator on a different order.

Will clean and shoot before I tear down to refinish the wood.

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"SA" Wood and Handguard look superior to me as well.

Would like to get a full set of that style wood furniture. Put up an EE ad for WTB, nothing yet.
 
Canman said:
If the barrel is angled different from the receiver then it would. That's how geometry works. If they are not parallel then the distance between them would change with distance.
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The optic compensates for that inside. When u zero ur basically aligning the internals of the optic to your barrel. Its just how they work.
 
CZ Shooter said:
I always thought that is the case with optics that are mounted square over the reciever, but with a side mount, that scope is now sitting slightly to the left of the barrel..this does have consequences.

So if you were to adjust the sidemount scope to reflect this by always maintaining the POI slightly to the right of the POA (parallel with the barrel), then it is indeed infinity.

But in theory, if your rifle was zeroed at say100 yards with POA and POI ecactly the same for that distance, that bullet will keep flying straight once it passes the set POA and eventually, with enough distance in will end up on the left side of the POA.

Being that the accuracy of these rifles is not that great, none of this likely matters, but if this were a precision setup, it might make a difference once at 500 yards or so.
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That is certainly true! Its definitely blown out of proportion online tho, PSOs sit like 3/8" or something to left on SVDs. With a perfect 100m zero that means the POI would be only like 3 inches left at 800m.

For optics fairly centered over the bore the original statement remains true, once its zeroed windage wise even with a misaligned bore its still fine.
 
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Murray 3-D said:
The optic compensates for that inside. When u zero ur basically aligning the internals of the optic to your barrel. Its just how they work.
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I’d echo what Murray says.

With the optic properly zeroed, the offset would be so minimal that it would be essentially on target at Infiniti.

It would be much akin to the M1 Garand, or other rifles with offset mounts, and their slightly offset scope.
 
Murray 3-D said:
The optic compensates for that inside. When u zero ur basically aligning the internals of the optic to your barrel. Its just how they work.
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If the optic/receiver and barrel had 5 degrees of difference then it still wouldn't matter? Would still be zeroed to infinity?
 
Canman said:
If the optic/receiver and barrel had 5 degrees of difference then it still wouldn't matter? Would still be zeroed to infinity?
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They dont have 5 degrees of difference though...so if you have to make up an extreme example to illustrate an actual problem, doesn't that in and of itself prove the problem doesn't actually exist? Lol.
 
Canman said:
If the barrel is angled different from the receiver then it would. That's how geometry works. If they are not parallel then the distance between them would change with distance.
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That is correct IMO. In this case the gun can only be zeroed at a certain distance. Below/above that "absolute" zero distance the POA will be different from POI.
 
711xx Just Picked up mine today from the post office. Ordered the 12th in the morning Ontario. Mine took 16 days, considering I messed up some of my info and added another order on top of my order. Thanks T.I. for bringing these in. You guys are appreciated for you time and hard work. That goes for all the staff. I haven't been this excited for a firearm in a long time. I really have to nit pick to find much anything to complain about.

Actually I'm surprised at the overall build of the rifle. Seems like a tank. Also the action seems robust and relatively smooth. (for what it is). The weight of the rifle also makes it feel like a rifle, kinda like a all metal pistol feels in your hand compared to a polymer pistol. You just feel like your holding something substantial that goes bang. The folding stock is robust also. Seems like this rifle could get really abused and still work.

Overall for what it is. Absolutely Fantastic rifle. Reliable and has the AK looks to go with it. This is something I've always wanted. Now to refinish the stock, wrap some paracord and get a better sling for it. Oh I guess I have to go shoot the thing too.
 
hunterhenderson said:
You know your way around......Welcome to the site, tell us a bit about yourself, where are you from, what you like to shoot ETC
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From Vancouver area. Originally from Ontario so I've seen both sides of the problems. Ontario seems to have a lot more places that sell stuff compared to here Alberta as well. I'm mainly into collecting to be honest the way I see myself only having fun with a few of my rifles, mostly my T81.. no harm in that but I do enjoy the 590A1 platform also for other calibers *edit or what I should say other gauges.This site is pretty cool I've looked at a few threads before but had to make an account after I saw half the #### everyone's dealing with was similar to me.
 
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