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Had a guy at my table this afternoon assuring me that a Savage Axis 270 is much better than a Lee Enfield. He went on to let me know that all those old Lee Enfields are worn out, headspace is bad on all of them. Thankfully he left after repeating these absolute facts again.

Other than that little episode, most other lookers were happy to be alive. Lots of interest in a former K98, now an Israeli .22 trainer that I have on my table.

Good crowd, lots of guns going out the door. Good luck to the liebrals getting these guns out of the hands of good, honest people.
 
You didnt have the 1895 win 303 carbine at 11000$ did ya. Lol
In buddys defence most of the LEs there looked like crap. The bundle of spare barrels was interesting though.
 
Same show, same guys selling the same overpriced crappy rifles and memorabilia. I’ve seen the same old guys selling the same crap at a ridiculous mark up for years. They have no interest in any kind of deals. These events are just social gatherings for some of these sellers. The days of getting a great deal at gun shows are dead. Now cue someone saying “I just bought a K98 signed by Hitler himself for $300! What are you talking about?!”…
 
I like older guns and have quite a few myself. I was there last year and condition of many were not related to their prices. Ammo was often more than anything brand new retail. I think that the event is indeed more of a social gathering than anything else. I have seen maybe two pieces that were priced fairly and in line with their condition. Parking was just another story, but it's what it's. I feel no need to revisit. Hopefully someone found something cool there.
 
I always disagree with the negative sentiment regarding this show. I go every year, stand in the line friday morning to have a better chance at seeing the reasonable deals that often disappear within the first hour. A dude picked up a fixed Type 81M for 1400. Pretty good considering the current market. Saw a mint Uberti Yellowboy Sporter for 1800 that i was very tempted to get. Lots of SKS rifles for prices better then what the local stores want. Quite a few good condition SVT 40s for prices identical to the online scene. Its a gun show. Not a garage sale. Deals can alway be had there if you show up early and are lucky enough to happen on to them first.

Plus if your a builder the parts bins many tables have often got lots of hidden hard to find / import and ship parts and accessories.
 
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Same show, same guys selling the same overpriced crappy rifles and memorabilia. I’ve seen the same old guys selling the same crap at a ridiculous mark up for years. They have no interest in any kind of deals. These events are just social gatherings for some of these sellers. The days of getting a great deal at gun shows are dead. Now cue someone saying “I just bought a K98 signed by Hitler himself for $300! What are you talking about?!”…


Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha, stop it, you're making me laugh so hard my sides are hurting.
 
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Same show, same guys selling the same overpriced crappy rifles and memorabilia. I’ve seen the same old guys selling the same crap at a ridiculous mark up for years. They have no interest in any kind of deals. These events are just social gatherings for some of these sellers. The days of getting a great deal at gun shows are dead. Now cue someone saying “I just bought a K98 signed by Hitler himself for $300! What are you talking about?!”…


Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha, stop it, you're making me laugh so hard my sides are hurting.

He's not entirely wrong. I've done the gun show circuit in AB for a few years now. You get to know those vendors that do exactly that. Granted, not everyone is like that of course, but if you're a casual observer to gun shows it can appear that way. I know there's bigger money in BC shows though compared to AB, and the Calgary show last year WAS dismal. Only half the arena was allowed to be rented to the org, so minimal space available. No power at tables, max number of tables available to rent limiting the big players with the good stuff, and crap parking. I like old guns too but when all you see is table after table of Lee Enfields and the same WW2 garbage medals and antique cartridge collections that'll get thrown in the trash in a couple years when the vendor dies, it's disappointing.
 
In Ontario there is a vendor that has a Weatherby Vanguard S2 in 257wby - I think this rifle has seen more of the 401, 403 and 427 hi-ways in Ontario than I did these last 6 years. I first saw it at the woodstock gun show 6 years ago for 1,000 dollars. Then three years after that at the Orangeville Gun Show for the same price. The last time I went to the St Catharines gun show there it was again. I recently acquainted myself with it at the Milton gun show this year he finally reduced the price to $900.

During this time period that same make model caliber would have been available NEW from Cabelas between $699 and $949.

I do not know what these vendors are on but their prices seem to already include the carbon tax.
 
Gun shows (as far as us older guys are concerned) are becoming a thing of the past... and a lot of the older guys you see with tables full of unsold stuff just like going to shows and trading with other table holders... not that much sold to the general public. At least that is what I have observed. I remember going to a show and having two tables full and coming home with nothing but money and what ever I bought. Those were the days.
 
I agree, recently there have been a lot more milsurps and memorabilia for sale at most gun shows.

The really good stuff gets squirreled away by younger folks now, that used to complain about the same issues.

Casual observers don't spend money, if they do, it's only if they find something at yard sale prices.

I see a hundred "casuals" often with a wife in tow who make scowling faces or hold onto the fellow's wallet and sometimes embarrass the hell out of him in front of a few dozen of his friends or people who know him if he even "casually" asks about or shows interest in a firearm, etc.

Most of the Lee Enfields we see at the shows these days are desporterised or well worn. That's life on the gun show circuit.

Why so many people get all snively because the show isn't full of their particular wants, often unobtainable or very expensive, is beyond me.

Gun shows are like the flavor of the day, but a day behind.

If you're looking for used firearms to be new in box condition and priced 50% below what it can be purchased for at the show?????????? If there ever was one, it was scooped up by another vendor and priced accordingly.

If you're going to gunshows expecting to find something specific, cheap, you have high expectations.

The fellows selling off their collections of military medals and badges put a lot of time and effort into those displays, some of which have very significant value.

I guess if you like to throw money in the garbage after someone passes because you can't be bothered to check out what's there??????

You can't take gunshows personally or believe they're being put on to meet your expectations.

Vendors only have to sell what they have.

They can't conjure up cheap primers, bullets, powder or ammo, because it's what you want.

They will sell what's available or in demand.

There was a time, only a few years ago, if you had a BSA CF2 chambered for the 7mm Rem Magnum, it wouldn't have stayed on the table longer than an hour after the show opened. Now, people want noisy, plastic stocks instead of wood and they can show up at different shows with the same vendor regularly.

The same goes for Remington ADL rifles. I now purchase these cheap, pick up some trigger guards with folding btm plates and add a couple of hundred to my overall costs. It takes an hour with a milling machine to open up the bottom of the stock, so not a bad return.

Then, there is the cost for the vendor to attend a gun show, accommodations, fuel, food, and time. It all has to be covered or there's no point in getting tables.

Some people are getting out of the game. You see them at many shows. They look online to price their stuff, then add their sentimental value. They learn soon enough no one cares if they shot their first gopher with that 60 year old Cooey and no one considers it to be an "antique".

It's a learning game on both sides of the table and the game is constantly changing
 
@bearhunter: I agree generally with your sentiments, but recognize that the average age of the grey market vendor is well over 60, and the average age of the attendee is 40. I would estimate the vast majority of gun shows are dead men walking in Canada, likely within 30 years or less unless things drastically change for the better in gun laws. Less and less people are interested in militaria or antiques, because as you said people's interest in the next shiny thing changes as the age and interests change. The call of duty gun owner is big right now, and if laws get a respite with Pollievre you'll see the tactical interest soar again. So, yeah while there might be some dollar value with those medals, the amount of interested parties is shrinking every year, just like the number of 12x pal holders.
 
Same show, same guys selling the same overpriced crappy rifles and memorabilia. I’ve seen the same old guys selling the same crap at a ridiculous mark up for years. They have no interest in any kind of deals. These events are just social gatherings for some of these sellers. The days of getting a great deal at gun shows are dead. Now cue someone saying “I just bought a K98 signed by Hitler himself for $300! What are you talking about?!”…

Here in Ontario you are mostly right about Gun Shows. However from time to time you do get what you
are searching for & CAN NOT find in a store.I have looked for a good 73 Winchester SRC for some time
& did find one @ the Ont. Orangeville Show last Sept. It was in good shape , not butchered , & at a fair price.
 
I first started going to the Calgary gun show in the 70's and have attended many of the shows since then. Even if I don't buy anything like this year, I still enjoy going to look and chat with people that I know, some of them I only see at gun shows. It's a social outing as much as anything. Lots of years I've come home with a new toy that was a reasonable price but there is often stuff that reappears every year on the same vendors table and is over priced, you just shake your head and move on. This year did seem to be worse than most for overpriced guns though, I saw a Rossi M92 for $1850 and that particular model can easily be found for under $1500. There was also an old Browning Citori with fixed chokes on one table for $2100... thats a $1500 dollar gun all day long and that's only because it was in nice shape. Each to their own though and you really should know your prices if you don't want to get ripped off.
 
I had a table there and was surprised that reasonably priced stuff (inc. Lee Enfields, Sniders, etc) seemed to attract very little interest. With younger generations coming along I suspect there is a loss in the ability to actually enter into a face to face conversation. Most sellers are happy to haggle although I'll admit the prospect of engaging some grumpy looking old fart can be offputting- like a lot of real world stuff. I found a lot of guys drifting by in small groups and, after looking at prices, rolling their eyes and chuckling- but never actually discussing. As always, there were some real bargains to be had with a bit of effort. As far as insane prices for "exotic" stuff- who cares. That's a small sector of the community where most of us can't or won't play. Likely guys who passed up my $800.00 great condition Canadian Snider will be into the next Switzer auction and paying as lot more for an item they can't inspect.

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...Likely guys who passed up my $800.00 great condition Canadian Snider will be into the next Switzer auction and paying as lot more for an item they can't inspect.

I probably wouldn't have been able to resist something like that which is why I'm disappointed I was on shift this weekend. A gun show can be the perfect place to make a deal on something like that because, in my case, I'd need to find dies/brass/bullets so you can wander around and collect everything you need. Also, it can be excellent to get some first hand knowledge from the previous owner about what loads had worked for them in the rifle (if they had shot it before that is)
 
It is sad to see that most of the shows in Calgary (the two local annual ones and the Easter one) over the last several years seem to be the same vendors with the same stuff that didn’t sell at the last show, so they have it at the current show with an increased price - if it doesn’t sell, jack the price up!
There are also always some vendors with totally unreal expectations - like the one fellow offering the T81M fixed stock, unfired, for $3000. Like DaveMachine said, I managed to pass on that “smokin’ deal”…..
To be fair, these events are called gun “shows”, not gun “sells”…….
 
I'm waiting for the bargain basement prices, when the whiners about gun show prices put their stuff up for sale.
Somehow, I think that I will wait in vain.
Don't like the price, move on.
A vendor who prices his stuff too high for the current market is welcome to carry it home again.
Nobody is forcing anyone to buy .
It's all about "willing seller, willing buyer" in a gun show.
 
I had a good time at the show. Talked to some really interesting people and made a few good connections that might actually pan out in the future.

I see gunshow prices as both reasonable and too high, depending on the item. I think most SKS prices are high. A friend just bought a very good condition Chinese SKS at Cabelas for $450. Haven't seen anything priced like that at a gunshow or on the EE.

The people biatching about beat up Lee Enfields for silly prices seem to have missed three tabes crowded with completely restored, absolutely beautiful LE's priced at less than $1000 by Lee Enfield Restorations. But then I guess the people biatching want a completely original, new, unfired 85 year old rife with perfect wood .... all for less than $1000. LOL.

I found both powder and bullets at the show, for very good prices.
 
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