New Pistol Safe

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So I'm sure quite a few of you guys have done this or something similar. I had been looking for just the right drawer safe for quite a while and I finally came across one at Cabela's that I liked. Its a V-Line Top Draw Pistol Safe.

Just a normal looking nightside table from the outside.

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But on the inside...

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Current contents...

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I didn't take any pics of the bottom of the drawer, but I reinforced it with a 1/2" piece of plywood and the V-line is bolted into that with 4 carriage bolts.
I figure it would take some power saws or a good axe to get the safe out of the drawer, however, currently one just needs to slip the drawer out!! So it needs something to stop the removal of the drawer, unless of course I want to. Suggestions anyone??
 
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Pics don't work. :( You may have forgotten the .jpg on the end.
 
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Perhaps a light chain secured to the back or bottom of the drawer, and the back or top of the cabinet. But even them, they could take the whole cabinet.

I like the stealth though, mine is similar to that.
 
You could run the chain to your bed, that would make it more difficult. Probably be better to use some cable though, a little quieter and won't snag when you're trying to open it in a hurry. If the bed isn't secure enough for you, you could put a couple eye-lags into a stud in the wall behind or into a floor joist below, depending on how your wife will freak out about putting holes in stuff. That's pretty much what I'm going to do, (when my wife's not looking);).
 
Those are good ideas, especially the part about doing the work when ones wife isn't around. Unfortunately, I'm using her laptop and when I started laughing about the wife point she started reading over my shoulder and mumbled something about a "sleeping bag and a doghouse"???
 
And why would you say that, MauserMike? It's in a locked, not-easily-accessable container. There's no concrete definition of what a safe has to be. I'd say that his current setup is more secure than the school lockers the Military Police store their firearms in here on base. (Mind you, they're also in a locked room. Beside the point, though.)

Brad
 
I'm sure I could do some more work on it bring it up to safe and legal standards as per the storage rules. But as you can see in the pics I didn't even bother to put any of my handguns in even for posing. I still want to make the drawer unable to be removed (passport renewing is a pain after all) but it makes a great ammo "safe" don't you think? If you look on V-line industries website they have a couple of cool wall safes. But again, a reciprocating saw could remove them in no time!!
Nothing is impossible to remove or gain access to when it comes to safes or vaults.
 
You can keep a restricted in a "cabinet" like this but you have to trigger lock it which to some degree reduces its usefulness as a ready self defense setup.

If you want to pass this off as a "safe" and store your restricted without trigger locks, you do so at your own peril. A safe generally has to be resistant to commonly available tools. A hammer and a crowbar could have this thing open in seconds.

Austen said:
I'm sure I could do some more work on it bring it up to safe and legal standards as per the storage rules. But as you can see in the pics I didn't even bother to put any of my handguns in even for posing. I still want to make the drawer unable to be removed (passport renewing is a pain after all) but it makes a great ammo "safe" don't you think? If you look on V-line industries website they have a couple of cool wall safes. But again, a reciprocating saw could remove them in no time!!
Nothing is impossible to remove or gain access to when it comes to safes or vaults.
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I should remind you that the title of the thread is "New Pistol Safe" :D Hence my reservations.
 
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I don't recall there being any requirement for a safe, and if so, any definition of what exactly a safe is. And when it says "not easily accessible", that's all it asks for - no one said anything about warding off people with the tools to do the job.

I recall a story where a man had his gunsafe broken into - he left for the weekend, and it took the burglars TWO DAYS with angle grinders, drills, crowbars, hammers, and a few other things to get through his BANK VAULT DOOR. The police charged him with unsafe storage.

Not that that story really backs up my point of view, necessarily, but it does go to show that it's all up to officer discretion.

Brad
 
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I don't recall there being any requirement for a safe, and if so, any definition of what exactly a safe is. And when it says "not easily accessible", that's all it asks for - no one said anything about warding off people with the tools to do the job.

I recall a story where a man had his gunsafe broken into - he left for the weekend, and it took the burglars TWO DAYS with angle grinders, drills, crowbars, hammers, and a few other things to get through his BANK VAULT DOOR. The police charged him with unsafe storage.

Not that that story really backs up my point of view, necessarily, but it does go to show that it's all up to officer discretion.

Brad
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The story of the guy who had his gunsafe broken into over 2 days is a little different. There's more to that story than JUST the theft (I believe he was already in some trouble for something else ? Wasn't allowed to possess firearms by court order or something ?) Anyways, that example isn't the norm.

Taken directly from the CFC web site:

Restricted and prohibited firearms

Attach a secure locking device so the firearms cannot be fired and lock them in a cabinet, container or room that is hard to break into; or

Lock the firearms in a vault, safe or room that was built or modified specifically to store firearms safely.

For an automatic firearm, also remove the bolt or bolt carrier (if removable) and lock it in a separate room that is hard to break into.

Interpret as you like.
 
^ No, I think that guy was from Toronto and he wasn't prohibited from having firearms, but he didn't live at the place where the guns were stored.
 
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PaveHammer said:
I recall a story where a man had his gunsafe broken into - he left for the weekend, and it took the burglars TWO DAYS with angle grinders, drills, crowbars, hammers, and a few other things to get through his BANK VAULT DOOR. The police charged him with unsafe storage.
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AFAIK it was a fire resistant vault door, not a rated bank vault by any means, and the reason he was charged had to do with the alarm not being used.... Not because the container was broken into.

Also, the fact that there are no set definitions is the exact reason that I would go above and beyond, IMHO.

FYI, there are professional options for concealing a real safe inside of a nightstand. I sold a pair this week, actually... See pic. We tested how long it takes to open the cabinet and punch the code into an e-lock, open safe... The longest part, for me, was actually waiting for the solenoid on the lock to fully retract the lockbolt and buzz to tell you you can open the safe... You could be in the safe in 4 seconds. Then again, the oldest person in the shop was the customer, at 55, and he did move a bit slower than us young bucks :D

http://xs225.xs.to/xs225/08133/safecabinet635.jpg
 
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It's made of steel, uses a combination to open (simplex lock) and it has some heft to it. Sure as hell sounds like a safe to me. Actually these safes would be a b!tch to open so they are good to go. I have a similar model mounted under my desk. The nay sayers will tell you that isn't secure. Those are the same folks who say that just a trigger lock on a non-restricted isn't good enough. They expect you to build Fort Knox in your house. Go by what the regs say and sleep well.
 
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