Usually it is a no, no and not recommended to clean up already loaded ammo in vibratory cleaners as it will often turn the extruded/flake or ball smokeless powder into a very fine talc like powder which dramatically changes the way it burns and can even sometimes cause excessive pressure in some cases. Either way it will likely ruin or affect the consistent performance and burn rate and accuracy.Years ago I bought out an estate and there were 6 boxes of factory loaded 270 win that were about 20 years old or maybe more, the cases were very tanished, I ran them through my viberating tumbler with cruched walnut media, they came out just like new, worked like a hot dam.
For gods sake, quit perpertrating this falsehoodUsually it is a no, no and not recommended to clean up already loaded ammo in vibratory cleaners as it will often turn the extruded/flake or ball smokeless powder into a very fine talc like powder which dramatically changes the way it burns and can even sometimes cause excessive pressure in some cases. Either way it will likely ruin or affect the consistent performance and burn rate and accuracy.
For gods sake, quit perpertrating this falsehood
Both RCBS and Hodgdon warn against tumbling loaded ammunition
"because the vibration can break down the powder and its deterrent coating, potentially altering the burn rate and creating a dangerously high-pressure load. The vibration can break down the powder's structure, and the deterrent coating can rub off, causing the powder to burn more quickly. This is particularly a risk with stick or granular powders, as a more volatile burn rate could exceed the safe pressure limits of the firearm."
- RCBS: Specifically warns that the vibration of a case polisher can break down the structure of powder and priming mix, potentially leading to unsafe ignition or misfires.
- Hodgdon: Officially states that completed ammunition should not be tumbled, as it will degrade the powder and increase its burn speed.
- Consequences: The breakdown of the powder and its deterrent coating can create a more volatile and faster-burning powder, turning a safe load into one that generates significantly higher pressure than the firearm was designed to withstand.
I don't have to do nothing. Go do some research or ask our local expert Ganderite. He has worked for powder manufacturers.Only if you can prove otherwise!
I will admit a light polish should be fine in a tumbler or vibratory cleaner, but prolonged cleaning will alter the powder characteristics.
Have you ever noticed how walnut shells (which are a lot harder than most smokeless powders) turns to a fine dust in the bottom of your tumbler after a prolonged amount of use? I wonder why, don't you?
But you are free to follow whatever course of action you deem satisfactory.
I myself prefer to take my information from Hodgdon powder and RCBS, I hope they know enough to issue such statements -
https://rcbs.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/RCBS_87060_VCP_1LIM_Web.pdf
https://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2008/09/why-you-should-not-tumble-clean-loaded-ammo/
Only if you can prove otherwise!
I will admit a light polish should be fine in a tumbler or vibratory cleaner, but prolonged cleaning will alter the powder characteristics.
Have you ever noticed how walnut shells (which are a lot harder than most smokeless powders) turns to a fine dust in the bottom of your tumbler after a prolonged amount of use? I wonder why, don't you?
I don't believe you!If you look at Ganderite's posts on this subject, it's not so much the kernels breaking down as it is the "graphite" coating on the kernels, which controls burn rate, being rubbed off during vibration.
It takes a lot of vibration to rub this stuff off, but it can be a serious issue.




























