There are quite a few milsurplus and even one old civilian shotgun floating around in Canada with fake Mexican crests on stock and at least one case (that shotgun) on metal. These are fakes. Completely random guns that never went to Mexico.
Fake Mexican marked guns
- Thread starter Horilka
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I was in contact with the guy on GP (Jack2000) he had a "Portuguese Mauser - Mexican Contract 8MM" for sale,
which was a Vergueiro action with a Persian mauser barrel in 8mm Mauser, and Mexican Stamps everywhere.
Today when I checked his ads, he had several "Russian Civil War Arisaka Type 38 Sporter 9.3X57mm Mauser" for sale.
The guy is a crook or a total idiot.
which was a Vergueiro action with a Persian mauser barrel in 8mm Mauser, and Mexican Stamps everywhere.
Today when I checked his ads, he had several "Russian Civil War Arisaka Type 38 Sporter 9.3X57mm Mauser" for sale.
The guy is a crook or a total idiot.
Eaglelord17
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Noticed a lot of those ‘rare Mexican’ guns recently. Which is weird to me as I never thought ‘Mexican’ rifles would have a premium. I understand when someone puts a fake waffenamt or ‘SS’ markings because there can be premiums especially from the unknowing but is there a premium for ‘Mexican’?
Could be the same fellow off of GP that was trying to sell the 98’s with fake stamps. Also had Lee Enfield’s that where faked. The Long Branch I knew quickly as the stamps where all left side and perfectly centred and perfectly upright. Plus the stamps on the wood looked too new. Was asking crazy high prices for them. He also had them posted on the EE. The 98 was a crude job. You could see where the old stamps where ground off. Higher polish and stamps in the wrong place.
Conartists amongst us that will take advantage of us to make a bit of money. Faking higher priced guns has been going on for years and nothing we can do will stop it. We have to know what we are buying. Knowledge helps but no guarantee we can’t be scammed.
A lot of people make up a story to try and sell a gun. Some are just so far out it’s amusing. The Arisaka is amusing. Bubba done screwed it comes to mind.
Conartists amongst us that will take advantage of us to make a bit of money. Faking higher priced guns has been going on for years and nothing we can do will stop it. We have to know what we are buying. Knowledge helps but no guarantee we can’t be scammed.
A lot of people make up a story to try and sell a gun. Some are just so far out it’s amusing. The Arisaka is amusing. Bubba done screwed it comes to mind.
Lee Enfield
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Like all the Brens a few years ago with waffenampts...
That’s a different guy I believe, posts here on GP. Some of his descriptions are a little fanciful to say the least. I think he was called out one (I think it a WWI trench shotgun) that had a very dodgy cartouche on it…he changed the description and put it back up for sale. He has actually sold a couple of his rifles recently…god knows what story the buyer got.
I’ve actually dealt with him in the past as a buyer and a seller. Can’t say I had a problem personally, but yeah, definitely sounds a little “dubious”.
These Arisakas came from Finland. They have Japanese export markings, and various Russian WW1 modifications.
The way they end up in Finland was during the Russian civil war - supplied to either Red or White Finns by either side.
Sometime after the war, they were sporterized and converted to various calibers.
Please, if you post accusations, I ask you at least have some knowledge of the topic you are posting about.
Oh yes,
Do you remember the "Portuguese Mauser - Mexican Contract 8MM" , which you posted several weeks ago?
They had Vergueiro actions a Persian Mauser 8mm barrel and lots of fake stamps on the amateurish fitted stock.
Is this your knowledge of the subject?
So, you stand by your expertise about the history of the "Russian Civil War Arisaka Type 38 Sporter in 8mm and 9.3X57mm Mauser"
Could you please post some credentials to confirm your theory.
I also bought a rifle from this fellow, luckily it wasn't anything rare, just something I had always wanted, a SMLE tanker. Was bought before I had read the posts here.
Not a theory.
The Russian Empire bought at least 600,000 Arisakas during WW1 from both the British and Japanese. Japanese overstamped chrysanthemum of Arisakas officially sold from their inventory.
The rifles I had all come from Finland, most have Finnish commercial proofs. All have "sold out of service" Tokyo arsenal overstamp on the chrysanthemum, meaning officially sold by Japanese government. All have earlier serial numbers, and pre-1923 triangle in circle proof. Some of the Arisakas have Russian modifications. They are Russian contract receivers, from rifles left over in Finland after the Russian civil war.
Later they were sporterized in various calibers.
Mauser I just listed as I bought it, didn't look into it at all.
shady, very shady.
Once you lose your credibility, nobody will believe you anymore.
Say whatever you say, I do not believe a single word.
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