What bullet weights r best with H4895 in 223 rem?

Heavy bullets.
With 55 grain bullets the case will be full to the base of the bullet. With any lighter bullets, it will be a compressed load.

H-4198 or IMR 4198 would be a better choice if you have it.
 
Mike112288 said:
Any ideal bullet weights using this powder for 223 rem? Better for lighter bullets or heavies?
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After many years of experimenting with the .223 Rem. H4895 is one of my favourite powders (Benchmark is the other one). A real good 12 twist .223 with good glass and an accomplished shooter with produce 1/4"-5/16" 5 shot groups, 3/8' easily. 25.0 -26.0 gr. with a 50 - 55 bullet usually touching or 10 thousand off will do it. 100% L.D., at or near top velocity, no pressure problems, consistent load. Old Hornady 53 Match HP ( flat base) is excellent. 50 - 55s are the ticket for varmint shooting. Have used this in many different .223s, and they all performed well with it. If a .223 will not perform with this load get rid of it. Have never had the need to shoot 40s or 60s or heavier so can`t offer much there.
 
Burton Urnie said:
In my 223s I use 55gr with any of the D4895, H4895 OR IMR4895.
25grs fills the case to the bottom of projectile.
They shoot well, hard to overfill a case.
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Right on. Depending on the make of brass, how it is resized, what bullet is used and what the OAL will be, 26.0 will pretty much be a 100% LD uncompressed load.
Example is if you use lighter fire formed brass (more case volume), lee collet neck size it only and seat a shorter bullet (50 SPSX) to a longer OAL.
 
Sounds good. I have a 223 with wylde chamber and 1-7.5 Twist 24” barrel. Hoping 55’s are gonna work okay in that. I have some benchmark and cfe 223 as well to test but I’m think h4895 and benchmark is what I’d like to stick with
 
I've used it with 75gr in AR mag length, and 80gr ELDM in over-length rounds. It hits pressure at lower muzzle velocities than Varget in my experience. But at least it isn't compressed, which is a benefit compared to Varget.
 
I mostly used Varget in the 75gr bthp Hornady 223 loads that fit in AR mags and fired from AR15 223wylde barrel 16" length, 7" twist. With Varget I was doing 2679fps, I think H4895 would have been about 100 slower due to pressure.

I think the thread I made here on CGN about my Savage 110 EP 223 26" length, 7" twist, contains load workup data. I ended up using Varget in that, too. 2.405" overall, 2953gr.
 
Without getting into all the "details" try H4895 and Benchmark with 50-55 grainers. I asked a well known couple of competitive bench rest shooters ( who are gunsmiths) to build me the ultimate .223 gopher killing gun with the only stipulation that it be a guaranteed 1/4" or better gun. I provided them with an older Rem 700VS with a HS Precision stock and said have at it. They laughed and told me that they would build it but would not guarantee that I could shoot it. I was somewhat shocked when they handed me a 12 twist .223 Wylde with a Gaillard barrel ( built to their standards blueprinted, bushed, etc.). That damm thing is ridiculously consistently accurate. Any fire formed brass / Forster neck die / Fed 205 / 25.5 Benchmark / Hornady 50 or 55 SPSX ( old school cheap axx bullets that launch gophers like you wouldn`t believe /COL 2.197 / 3250 / consistent 1/4" -5/16" (no wind perfect conditions). I find Benchmark meters better than H4895, and before anyone starts with the ball powder thing, been there done that and that is why I use Benchmark. Shot in Tikkas, CZs even works in Savages.
 
Presently the 77gr SMK seems to be more available, and making do with what we can get may be better for now than thinking about what we'd ideally use but can't have. That in front of 4895 looks like a decent starting point, although CFE223 looks interesting too as it seems to still be available while 4895 looks unobtainable.
 
Case:Winchester
Twist:1:12.000"
Primer:Winchester SR, Small Rifle
Barrel Length:24.000"
Trim Length:1.750"
Bullet Weight
55 GR. SPR SP
Starting Load 25 gr 3170 fps Maximum Loads 26.0 gr 3315 fps
H4895 is a very vestal powder for many ctgs and can be loaded to 60 % of max load
 
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Bad Bob said:
After many years of experimenting with the .223 Rem. H4895 is one of my favourite powders (Benchmark is the other one). A real good 12 twist .223 with good glass and an accomplished shooter with produce 1/4"-5/16" 5 shot groups, 3/8' easily. 25.0 -26.0 gr. with a 50 - 55 bullet usually touching or 10 thousand off will do it. 100% L.D., at or near top velocity, no pressure problems, consistent load. Old Hornady 53 Match HP ( flat base) is excellent. 50 - 55s are the ticket for varmint shooting. Have used this in many different .223s, and they all performed well with it. If a .223 will not perform with this load get rid of it. Have never had the need to shoot 40s or 60s or heavier so can`t offer much there.
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I know this is an old thread but wanted to give credit to the experience of others in this discussion.

After consulting several manuals and a few work up loads, yesterday I tried 26.0 grains H4895 in new Starline cases, federal primers and the 50 grain vmax bullets in my Brno 601. Average velocity was 3447 fps which was really cooking in my opinion. Accuracy was sub MOA with just a 6X Weaver and cases and primers looked great. Bullets seats 10 thousands off the lands. Looks like coyote medicine to me!!
 
My go to bullet for a fast twist .223 Wylde were the 77g Lapuas. I was trying to shoot the 90 g Bergers, which worked very well out to 600m. At 800m they did not. The 77s shot well with everything I loaded them with Varget, N140, N150,
 
I have run 95 grain Match Kings out to 900 with IMR 4895 with excellent scores in my 1:6.5 twist Krieger , but prefer Varget .
I can use the 4895 in a pinch however....
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Recently picked up an 8lb jug H4895, seems like it was hard to get for a few years there

I put some under the new 69gr Hornady ELDvt and tried in my 20" Tikka CTR 223 Rem (Lapua brass, CCI 450, 2.416" OAL / .047 jump)

23.7grs did 2977 fps, great group at 325 yards

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