SCSA Taipan X - Range Observations (Your Mileage May Vary)

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So, I finally managed to take my new Taipan X to my club. Pretty excited to try it out. Have it mounted with a newish Viper 2 PST LPVO (another story in and of itself - warranty call coming on that one).

Anyways, aside from another CGNer here figuring out why my Gen 2 PMAGS don't seat properly (spine shaving some bits off did the trick), the gun seemed to handle good at home just in cycling snap caps and what not. I did run a bore snake through the barrel as initial cleaning as the company suggests.

So here are some observations I had on the weekend with the Taipan X. I was hoping to possibly use it as a HD firearm (since everything else I had for that purpose has since been banned), but not so sure after the range trip.

Ammo used (initially): Federal American Eagle 55gr 5.56 FMJ
Ammo used (subsequently): PMC XTAC 62gr LAP (green tips)
Magazines used: LAR15, PMAG 2 (5/30), PMAG 3 (5/30), MFT 10PM556

Pros:

1. With the above ammo, with all the above magazines, it fed well with both the pump action and the straight pull charging handle. Most mags dropped free fine.
2. Accuracy was better than my former MRA Renegade

Light Cons:

1. On the bench, if a rest is used, the rest has to clear the pump portion, as it moves with the charging handle.
2. It got heavier to carry as I expected, and with repeated use, the pump seemed to be further and further away (totally psychological, but I think it was also the weight and my small framed body). I wish the stock was adjustable.
3. The more it was in the cold, it seemed like the pump mechanism became stiffer and required more force.
4. Occasionally when loading a mag and shouldering the firearm, the round came slightly out of battery as I inadvertently in grabbing the pump, slightly moved it back. I wish the pump would lock into place until after either a fired round or a manual button/switch to release it.

Heavy Cons:

1. Not a single PMC LAP / green tip round fed, in any of the magazines. Not only did it not feed, it got significantly jammed up while trying to feed with the round, after the bolt came forward, partially out of the mag with the front jammed into the bottom of the chamber and the back / middle still partially in the mag. I should have taken a photo, but I was so annoyed at this - I couldn't eject the unfired round and I couldn't eject the magazine - had to get some tools to pry it out, and even then the magazine release was semi-seized a few operations after. This was consistent on every single LAP round. I don't know if it is because the round was super pointy and just didn't chamber properly or whether there is a tolerance issue, but it was the same behaviour with every single magazine every single time. When I finally got it working, I managed to run some regular FMJs back through it and it was back to normal. But it marred the bottom outside of chamber.

I will try it with different non-LAP rounds last week, but important for me to try things like varmint rounds and other hunting rounds to see if they consistently feed. If not, then this may end up becoming just another range toy
 
Interesting. Thanks for the observations.

I’m going to try some PMC XTAC 62gr in my two rifles today. See how they feed.
 
I had used some Swiss mil surplus with no issues. Will have to try the green.

I find tolerences very tight on these guns so your choice of lubricant in cold temps might be an issue.
 
I had used some Swiss mil surplus with no issues. Will have to try the green.

I find tolerences very tight on these guns so your choice of lubricant in cold temps might be an issue.
I did initial cleaning with G96. I may try something else just to rule that being an issue.

I don't think it was super cold yesterday.

I will add some match ammo to my range bag for next weekend. I think I have some S&B 77 gr match ammo. I was never going to use this stuff on my 5.56 semis (all of which are banned now)

I believe reading the distributor saying initially in another thread that 62gr green tips run fine. It may just be the tolerances in my gun. Part of the reason I bought this thing was to use up the bulk of my 5.56 ammo, a lot of which are green tips.

Thanks for the feedback everyone. Hopefully you all have better success running the LAP rounds than I did...
 
I will try some pmc 62gr lap in mine next range trip
I've yet to have feeding issues with any ammo i have tried.
I also wish the pump handle would lock into battery like a shotgun
 
I have had mine out a few times but only shoot reloads. I did notice a few reloads that were ever so slightly out of spec did not chamber well. I have a few cases of factory ammo, including green tip that I will have to try. What i have noticed is that the chamber is very tight. I will check headspace on it when I pull it apart. Worst case I will have my local smith kiss the chamber ever so slightly to give it a little more headspace.
 
Just grabbed my taipan and checked as I'm waiting for a meeting 😂. She chambers both PMC and federal 62 grain green tip no issue
What magazine are you using?

As long as it chambers my Varmageddon and Superformance Varmint with VMAX, I'll be good.

A fellow range member / RSO had some difficulty seating the LAR15 mag on a closed bolt but that's not a chambering issue. I am able to seat my Varmageddon on PMAG G3 on a closed bolt at home but have not tried chambering a round (will try it next week at the club).

The first time it happened, I saw it didn't seat - wasn't a double feed, but I tried to pull the bolt back and let it rip again (I never baby the bolts) but that just made it worse and when I got that round out the bullet was recessed into the casing..of course if it was stuck pointing slightly diagnonal downward (think sideways 10 o'clock to 4 o'clock with the 4 o'clock bullet side stuck at the bottom outside (say 5 o'clock) of the chamber opening.

It is almost like the bolt is not stripping the round straight into the chamber, or the tolerance is so bad it hits an outer edge of the chamber and then goes diagonal. As the original post said, part of the round is still stuck in the magazine while the front of it exited the magazine and hit the bottom outside 5 o'clock of the chamber (the bullet ended up marring that section visibly). This is why I was wondering whether perhaps it was the very pronounced sharp shape of the bullet on the LAP rounds. If that is the case, then technically the other varmint rounds may have problems chambering.

I should mention that both the AE 55gr FMJ and the PMC XTAC 62gr LAP are all factory.

And I should mention the majority of the times, I locked the bolt back with that silver button and then seated the mag and then used the bolt release to send the bolt home.

The home A-Zoom snap caps had no problem chambering from various mags at home.

I may take the whole thing apart and deep clean it with something else.
 
I've shot maybe 700 rounds of handloads from mine during 3-Gun matches in USA last year. All 55 gr Campro projectiles with BLC2 powder and Ginex SR primers. Mixed cases, FLR. No issues chambering with my Cross mags (coupled 10-rounders).

That being said, I have not used mine in the cold - probably from 10C to 30C.

YMMV
 
3. The more it was in the cold, it seemed like the pump mechanism became stiffer and required more force.

Did you clean and oil it before use? I notice the same thing with pump shotguns, especially if they haven't been cleaned and lubed recently.
 
So, I finally managed to take my new Taipan X to my club. Pretty excited to try it out. Have it mounted with a newish Viper 2 PST LPVO (another story in and of itself - warranty call coming on that one).

Anyways, aside from another CGNer here figuring out why my Gen 2 PMAGS don't seat properly (spine shaving some bits off did the trick), the gun seemed to handle good at home just in cycling snap caps and what not. I did run a bore snake through the barrel as initial cleaning as the company suggests.

So here are some observations I had on the weekend with the Taipan X. I was hoping to possibly use it as a HD firearm (since everything else I had for that purpose has since been banned), but not so sure after the range trip.

Ammo used (initially): Federal American Eagle 55gr 5.56 FMJ
Ammo used (subsequently): PMC XTAC 62gr LAP (green tips)
Magazines used: LAR15, PMAG 2 (5/30), PMAG 3 (5/30), MFT 10PM556

Pros:

1. With the above ammo, with all the above magazines, it fed well with both the pump action and the straight pull charging handle. Most mags dropped free fine.
2. Accuracy was better than my former MRA Renegade

Light Cons:

1. On the bench, if a rest is used, the rest has to clear the pump portion, as it moves with the charging handle.
2. It got heavier to carry as I expected, and with repeated use, the pump seemed to be further and further away (totally psychological, but I think it was also the weight and my small framed body). I wish the stock was adjustable.
3. The more it was in the cold, it seemed like the pump mechanism became stiffer and required more force.
4. Occasionally when loading a mag and shouldering the firearm, the round came slightly out of battery as I inadvertently in grabbing the pump, slightly moved it back. I wish the pump would lock into place until after either a fired round or a manual button/switch to release it.

Heavy Cons:

1. Not a single PMC LAP / green tip round fed, in any of the magazines. Not only did it not feed, it got significantly jammed up while trying to feed with the round, after the bolt came forward, partially out of the mag with the front jammed into the bottom of the chamber and the back / middle still partially in the mag. I should have taken a photo, but I was so annoyed at this - I couldn't eject the unfired round and I couldn't eject the magazine - had to get some tools to pry it out, and even then the magazine release was semi-seized a few operations after. This was consistent on every single LAP round. I don't know if it is because the round was super pointy and just didn't chamber properly or whether there is a tolerance issue, but it was the same behaviour with every single magazine every single time. When I finally got it working, I managed to run some regular FMJs back through it and it was back to normal. But it marred the bottom outside of chamber.

I will try it with different non-LAP rounds last week, but important for me to try things like varmint rounds and other hunting rounds to see if they consistently feed. If not, then this may end up becoming just another range toy

Hope it ends up being what you want out of it, Gazelle!

Overall how do you like it compared to a Renegade?
 
Did you clean and oil it before use? I notice the same thing with pump shotguns, especially if they haven't been cleaned and lubed recently.
I didn't take it apart or oil anything else other than running a bore snake through the barrel after spraying with G96. Manual said to clean the barrel. It is plausible the pump needs to be oiled. The non-chambering of the 62gr LAP rounds are distressing...the fact that it works consistently with the 55gr FMJ rounds but not at all with 62gr LAP. May have a sale on those PMC XTAC LAP rounds on the EE soon!
 
Hope it ends up being what you want out of it, Gazelle!

Overall how do you like it compared to a Renegade?
I like it better than the Renegade for some strange reason...maybe it's the pump part, which who knows, may just be a novelty which may wear off. I may have another opinion in a matter of weeks. But I sold my Renegade years ago (it was Gen 1...I may look at a Gen 2 just out of curiosity)
 
I like it better than the Renegade for some strange reason...maybe it's the pump part, which who knows, may just be a novelty which may wear off. I may have another opinion in a matter of weeks. But I sold my Renegade years ago (it was Gen 1...I may look at a Gen 2 just out of curiosity)

"Buy the other gun" is always the answer, but I hope you keep liking this one just as much and it does what you want/need it to! Thanks for the review and info
 
"Buy the other gun" is always the answer, but I hope you keep liking this one just as much and it does what you want/need it to! Thanks for the review and info
My friend, I don't want to conflate my review necessarily with an endorsement. These things are all universally understood as "cope guns" and for good reason - I picked up my Renegade because of the novelty factor - can maybe have an AR without having an AR (I've never had an AR). But you know, once I started working that manual straight pull action, any allure went out the window.

It is like people saying that oh, you can make your own double chocolatey frappucino like Starbucks at home, but instead of using sugar, use stevia. Some even swear up and down that this tastes like the real thing. I remember when I was trying to lose weight I bought into this and made one based on the reviews (mostly by women who are used to aspartame-level sugar replacements). Well, I took one sip and YUCK YUCK YUCK. Was gonna puke. Nothing like the real thing. But I kept drinking it hoping I would like it. But nope. Now much crap do you have to guzzle down before you admit that yes, it is crap and I am the stupid one to think this gimped out version was legit.

The Renegade (and the Taipan) I feel is the stevia of the gun set. I loved, loved, loved my semi auto sporter rifles, and miss them so much. But similarly knowing that I can't have any, I now scurry around for alternatives to scratch the itch so to speak.

If, as it appears, the days of semi auto centerfire 5.56 rifles are long gone, maybe over time the straight pulls and the goofy cope guns may be the new normal. But I suspect it will be like that stevia in the fake double chocolatey Frappuccino. We know it's all fake, tastes like garbage, but it's better than dying of thirst...

Maybe...
 
Thats a really good way to say it...at least we can laugh about it.

IF someone wanted a rifle within the parameters of what the Renegade is...it seems like a good option. The AR ergos are solid. Accessorization is easy.

But you're very much on point IMO
 
I have several of these and they all work flawlessly with any ammo I've tried. 10 rounds, but the follower is a tad high making the 10th round hard to load. Never had any feeding issues and they drop freely. Only 2 complaints I have with this rifle is the slide doesnt lock and the trigger is the heaviest trigger I have ever felt. Always feels like the safety is on until it goes bang.
 

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Hi, joined this fourm because of the Taipan. Thinking of getting the X or wait for the Evo. Is the heavy trigger an issue? Just read the post above, i guess it can be. I wonder if the trigger can be improved.
 
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