Plastic 10/22 (pix added)

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Yes, we are fcuked....


It seems that now Ruger supplies 10/22's with
plastic trigger groups (TG housings and some TG parts).

TGs1022.jpg


Did they already reached the shelves in Canada?

If you already have one, how do you clean it?
(do you wipe it with wet rag, or is it dishwasher safe?)

I think we'll see the prices of the old ones going up.


(the good news is that the barrels
continue to be made of steel,
but you don't care since you replace it anyway).


More pics added in post #28
 
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How long should a young shooter save for one?

The whole stock rifle is about
$250-340Cdn retail (or $185US wholesale).

I hope this is going to be an incentive for some other
manufacturers to make copies.
They have no excuses now.
The design had passed the 40 yrs mark.
 
In their defense, plastics are becoming much more durable. After all, we do have Glocks made partly from composites. Do you think maybe plastic has a bad rap? There are some plastics that I would actually prefer to weak zinc-based alloys.

Perhaps when petrol prices exceed metal prices they will switch back.
 
skirsons said:
In their defense, plastics are becoming much more durable. After all, we do have Glocks made partly from composites. Do you think maybe plastic has a bad rap? There are some plastics that I would actually prefer to weak zinc-based alloys.

Perhaps when petrol prices exceed metal prices they will switch back.
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I was thinking the same thing, but of course I also LOVE Tikka T3s!


Maybe it is an improvement or maybe it is strictly a cost saver.
 
(Ronin) said:
Is it plastic plastic or polymer?
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its self-lubricating, IR invisible reinforced thermoplastic copolymer resin.

this is nothing but a pure cost-saving measure, and i really hate to see Ruger take this route. unlike other manufacturers for the most part Ruger has been hanging on to all steel parts in most of their factory offerings... so much for that :(
i dont care so much about the 10/22s, but that this will spill over into their 77mkIIs, Minis, 77/22s, etc. pretty soon all guns will be like the Remington 770... *shudder*
 
manbearpig said:
its self-lubricating, IR invisible reinforced thermoplastic copolymer resin.

this is nothing but a pure cost-saving measure, and i really hate to see Ruger take this route. unlike other manufacturers for the most part Ruger has been hanging on to all steel parts in most of their factory offerings... so much for that :(
i dont care so much about the 10/22s, but that this will spill over into their 77mkIIs, Minis, 77/22s, etc. pretty soon all guns will be like the Remington 770... *shudder*
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NOW PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO GET 10/22s PAST METAL DETECTORS!!!

:eek::runaway:
 
What a shame. Guns are one of the few products that can still be found containing metal.

Better polymers or not, there's no denying plastic cheapens the feel, and sometimes appearance, of any product. After all, who would've preferred the new plastic Tonka trucks over the metal ones of yesteryear...
 
Something I will say about Ruger is that they have always been on the forefront of new manufacturing techniques and technologies. They were the first firearms manufacturer to use investment casting on a large scale to make gun parts. When they first started investment casting revolver frames there was a lot of skepticism about how these "cheap" frames would hold up... 20 some years later no one even raises an eyebrow...

Yes it is a pure cost saving measure. That is the nature of manufacturing anything in a competitive environment. Ruger was faced with two choices, raise the cost of the venerable 10/22, or develop a cheaper way to manufacture some of the parts... Time will tell if they made the right choice, I guess.

But that being said, I think I will head down to Russell's this afternoon and buy a spare 10/22 while they are still metal! :runaway:
 
That all said, I think we have to be open to plastics. A high quality plastic can be better than a low quality metal. I am a little concerned about cleaning a plastic gun since our current cleaners would be corrosive to plastics and eat them away. New lubricants and cleaners will be needed.

And as I mentioned before, imagine how expensive plastic will become considering rising oil prices. They may even have to go back to metal for cost reasons sometime in the distant future.
 
skirsons said:
NOW PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO GET 10/22s PAST METAL DETECTORS!!!

:eek::runaway:
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yes, i think it would be in everyones best interest to just ban them entirely before things get out of hand, or they fall into the hands of terrorists.

they are semi-automatic!
i saw one at the range that was all black with a folding stock and high-cap magazine and i nearly #%@$ myself in terror. the guy firing it looked Asian, he must have been in the Triads!

everyone knows that all you need for hunting is a single shot Cooey - anything else is just asking for more gang violence, terrorism and school shootings.
 
I don't care how well or durable they are, I hate to see plastic on a rifle. When I was choosing my last deer hunting rifle, I was deciding between a Tikka and a Ruger, and it was the fact that there was no plastic on the Ruger that made my decision to buy a Ruger. I also purchased years ago a Toz 99 .22, which shoots great, but I HATE the plastic mags.
 
i think for noncritical parts like magazine housings (Tikka) plastic can be a viable alternative.

but for the entire trigger assembly housing and some trigger parts? how could that be more durable than even the old aluminum housings? plastic would wear faster, resist heat far less, be more prone to warping, etc.

im not against technological advancement but does anyone here really believe that this change was made to improve the 10/22 and not just cut costs? regardless of whether or not this particular change will eventually prove to affect the performance and longevity of a 10/22 you still have to mourn the 'cheapifying' of yet another firearm.
 
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