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I wonder, do you think a rubber butt pad shoulder saver for a shotgun or Ak/Type 81 might fit the FAL-style stock to get extended length of pull? Alternatively, could you stack a short 1913 riser (like for a short red dot or prism site) to increase the length of pull, or would that compromise the rigidity too much?
I would avoid the slip-on Rubber Recoil-reducing Buttpads for the primary reason that they often fail to provide a stable basis for recoil absorption. The pads tend to slip around on the Buttplate unless perfectly sized and perhaps hot-glued into positon. Not my recommended method for lengthening the LOP, and one that I would avoid. Plus they tend to look sloppy and amateurish.
Introducing another potential failure-point into the chain of attached parts forming your Buttstock is not a wise idea. Although Picatinny Rails provide significant attachment strength, introducing additional failure points (2 of them) in order to extend a Buttstock with a Riser is not advisable in my view. The 1/2" Buttstock Extenders employed by the Lage Stocks are integral to the design of the Stock itself, and do not potentially compromise the strength of the attachment system. A deliberately-designed, adjustable Buttstock will typically be preferable to jury-rigged solutions of questionable strength.
I'd agree that a picatinny riser is sloppy and jury rigged. An adjustable LOP stock is still the best option IMO.
The GP-25 buttpad has proven military pedigree and is specifically designed with a strap for securely attaching to skeleton stocks. That's my recommendation. It stretches to fit over the butt and I'm 87% sure it will fit a makasi stock. Can't tell for certain without testing of course.
The GP-25 buttpad has proven military pedigree and is specifically designed with a strap for securely attaching to skeleton stocks. That's my recommendation. It stretches to fit over the butt and I'm 87% sure it will fit a makasi stock. Can't tell for certain without testing of course.
The CZ Bren 2 only makes use of a Carbon-Fibre-reinforced Polymer Lower Receiver, whereas the Upper Receiver is based on a length of extruded Aluminum with steel firing components (Bolt, Carrier, Barrel). The Lower Receiver therefore deals with little to no stress or firing pressure.
A better example of an all-polymer rifle is the HK G36, which has a true Polymer Receiver, including the internal Receiver Rails that the Bolt-Carrier rides upon. The G36 is also bulky for what it is, but at least it lacks the "pregnant tuna" profile of the Carmel, Beretta and other recent polymer-heavy efforts.
To elaborate further, I remember the same issue with the length of pull noted on the side and under-folding Type 81s, and many used a rubber butt pad to help. Although the adjustable length of pull stocks , be they be buffer tube based or otherwise, would be superior, it's nice to have an inexpensive alternative, even if it only gets used temporarily.
Painkillers
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I believe, the LOP is what it is, to clear the charging handle when folded. If so, lengthening the butt will interfere with the charging handle. If this is all correct, then the decision to be made is a straight, proper LOP butt, or a short, improper LOP buttstock than can be folded.
Someone posted, I think it was magpul?, that can give the best of both worlds, as it angles down, away from the charging handle when folded, and it's an M4 type adjustable LOP. Whether it'll last (the hinge), only time will tell.
There is no need to run out of room on the Left Side of the rifle with a longer LOP Buttstock running into the Charging Handle. Simply reverse the Side-folding Mechanism so that the Stock now folds on the Right Side like the original FAL Para. Now you can mount a Buttstock with as long a LOP as you desire. In many cases (such as the new Magpul Buttstock), the "Tube" is angled downwards enough to clear the Ejection Port for firing with the stock folded (if desired). Best of all worlds - longer LOP, Right-side Folding, Clear Ejection Port.
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Do you know if it locks folded?
I phoned Range Sports , and confirmed with them they can bring in WOOX AR accessories, in addition to the WOOX precision products they have listed on the site. WOOX has fixed and folding wood and aluminum with wood cheek riser and butt plate insert 1913 stocks, wood MLok rail covers , pistol grips, and foregrips if anyone wants their Makasi to have a woody FAL look, FYI. I thought they were a forum business, but they must have let their membership lapse, as their subforum is unpostable, so, my original post got nuked because I was wrong, sorry to the Admin.
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Start viewing at 4:25. The folding stock:
1. Locks both open and closed, based on a spring-loaded detent in the folding mechanism.
2. Is clearly reversible. Note the Mounting Screws for the Buttstock (which allows it to be flipped 180-degrees upside-down), and the Mounting Screw for the entire Buttstock Assembly (which allows it to be flipped upside-down where it attaches to the Rifle Receiver as well).
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This is a bit of a long shot, but does anybody know if there is such a thing as a FAL ar grip, a picatinny/m1913 fal wood buttstock, and some kind of AR handguard that resembles a FAL? Lol
In other words, does anyone think you could turn this into a FAL lookalike? For say, a 1.5k budget? If so I may be sold
In other words, does anyone think you could turn this into a FAL lookalike? For say, a 1.5k budget? If so I may be sold
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Duct tape and pool noodles.. the good o.d. green tape..
Can't wait to try 1 out also ryu.
With a pic rail adapter you can add any stock you want to it.
