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Hi guys.

i have a H&R 058 30-30win. i’m getting the barrel shortened to 18.5”.

looking for a Damage resistant Crown design.

this gun is going to be living on the front of a ATV for a work and ranch gun. cerakoted and williams ghost ring sights.

i have never damaged a crown personally but thought if there was a better style to go with might as well when it’s getting chopped.

thanks for any input
 
Shorten the barrel to a slightly longer length than what you originally intend (maybe a 1/4 inch longer). You won't notice the difference and if you have to recrown again it in the future because of damage you've got slightly extra to work with without shortening it below 18.5 inches.
 
PSE said:
Shorten the barrel to a slightly longer length than what you originally intend (maybe a 1/4 inch longer). You won't notice the difference and if you have to recrown again it in the future because of damage you've got slightly extra to work with without shortening it below 18.5 inches.
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good idea. thanks.
 
OP, I don't do this work for other people anymore, but I had a very similar issue to worry about as you describe in your post.

It's very easy for all sorts of crud to get into the rifle boot/scabbard when it's either on a horse or an ATV.

Usually it's just moisture, snow, leaves/twigs, but sometimes pebbles manage to find their way into the bottom, where the muzzle can easily be pressed against them, or detritus can be pushed into the muzzle.

A recessed crown, as mentioned above, will take care of 95% of the problems.

I had an issue with one of the rifles I used to use on my single seat quad, a pebble managed to get into the bottom of the lined, plastic scabbard I carried the rifle in while riding, likely thrown up by the tires?

The muzzle edge was very slightly dimpled, more than enough to make accuracy an issue.

The solution was simple, and figured out by militaries all over the world centuries ago, "counterbore."

I counterbored the muzzle about half a centimeter.

It's cheap and easy for a smith, or even a skilled DIY type too do the job.

I did it on my lathe, with a drill bit, followed by a clean up with a cutting tool.

IMHO, most recessed crowns aren't deep enough to offer as much muzzle protection as I personally would like for such situations.
 
pathfinder76 said:
After crowning, use electrical tape on your muzzle whenever it leaves the house. I can’t believe the amount of people that don’t, won’t, or just plain don’t care about this simple solution to potentially many problems.
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Agreed!....:)

I'm wearing a condom right now!.........:ROFLMAO:

One can never be too safe........;)
 
You don't need a brake though. Thread it and install a extended crown protector. Gets dinged up, thread a new one on. Guy who is chopping your barrel should be able to thread it and make the extended protector pretty easy. If not, you can buy one.

This is more of a seamless look.
 

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Denver Steve said:
You don't need a brake though. Thread it and install a extended crown protector. Gets dinged up, thread a new one on. Guy who is chopping your barrel should be able to thread it and make the extended protector pretty easy. If not, you can buy one.

This is more of a seamless look.
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That isn’t the crown.
 
pathfinder76 said:
That isn’t the crown.
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What isn't the crown? The picture it's of a extended thread protector, that protrudes out just past the end of the barrel. And the target crown that is cut on the barrel in the picture. Protecting the crown of the barrel from scrapes and dings. Similar to a recessed crown, but you are recessing it by threading a part o to threads.

I'm not sure what you are getting at. The target crown is clearly protected in that example photo I provided.
 
Denver Steve said:
What isn't the crown? The picture it's of a extended thread protector, that protrudes out just past the end of the barrel. And the target crown that is cut on the barrel in the picture. Protecting the crown of the barrel from scrapes and dings. Similar to a recessed crown, but you are recessing it by threading a part o to threads.

I'm not sure what you are getting at. The target crown is clearly protected in that example photo I provided.
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You can do the same thing without messing around with threads and thread protectors. Why would you need to do that? Replacing the tread protector after you beat it up has nothing whatsoever to do with the crown.

Removing metal from the muzzle end of a barrel to replace it with a threaded cap makes zero sense to me. What are we doing to the muzzle of a rifle that requires replacing it?
 
The crown is the area of the barrel where the bullet last touches as it departs. The deeper this area is into the muzzle the more protected it is.

A flat crown offers little protection. A quite rounded crown ends up with the crown quite recessed and protected.
 
bearhunter said:
OP, I don't do this work for other people anymore, but I had a very similar issue to worry about as you describe in your post.

It's very easy for all sorts of crud to get into the rifle boot/scabbard when it's either on a horse or an ATV.

Usually it's just moisture, snow, leaves/twigs, but sometimes pebbles manage to find their way into the bottom, where the muzzle can easily be pressed against them, or detritus can be pushed into the muzzle.

A recessed crown, as mentioned above, will take care of 95% of the problems.

I had an issue with one of the rifles I used to use on my single seat quad, a pebble managed to get into the bottom of the lined, plastic scabbard I carried the rifle in while riding, likely thrown up by the tires?

The muzzle edge was very slightly dimpled, more than enough to make accuracy an issue.

The solution was simple, and figured out by militaries all over the world centuries ago, "counterbore."

I counterbored the muzzle about half a centimeter.

It's cheap and easy for a smith, or even a skilled DIY type too do the job.

I did it on my lathe, with a drill bit, followed by a clean up with a cutting tool.

IMHO, most recessed crowns aren't deep enough to offer as much muzzle protection as I personally would like for such situations.
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a deeper recessed crown kind of cut?
a little more meat to take a hit?
 
The crown isn’t the end of the barrel or just the very last bit of riflings, the crown is the entire thing. If you cut the barrel and leave it as is there is no crown, the crown is the finish product including the very last bit of riflings, the tip of the barrel it the way it is shaped to protect the very last bit of riflings.

Anyway just keep tape at the end of your barrel done! I’ve done that for well as long as I’ve had a hunting rifle. Never damaged a crown yet can it happens yes just recrown!
 
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