Suggested .22 for Bullseye

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Hello Everyone;

I would appreciate your input on what you think would be a good option for a .22 to shoot bullseye competition. I have tried a High Standard Citation, which seemed to fit well, but would like to hear your thoughts.

Thanks in advance.
 
like Undertaker said, a gun that fits you will probably work for you. I'm partial to the High Standards and the S&W model 41.
 
I am not competing yet but the one particular pistol I tried impressed me. Browning Buckmark, the model with heavy barrel and rail on top of the barrel and shields over rear and front sights. I am not sure what is that model called. Looks identical to that one
http://www.ssaa.org.au/stories/handguns/making-a-mark-brownings-buck-mark_1.jpg
I borrowed it couple times and the first time I shoot it in rapid fire one handed - just like in competition and 10 holes where inside 1.5". I mean I never shot this good ever. Then a couple weeks later I persuaded the same guy to let me shoot it and the same story - about 1.5" hole. Has something to do with trigger and beautiful rubberised grips I guess. He never loan me his gun again :)
 
BJP said:
like Undertaker said, a gun that fits you will probably work for you. I'm partial to the High Standards and the S&W model 41.
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X3. Get what fits and works for you. I shoot with a couple that went through about three different types of pistols till they found what they each like.

I bought a Walther GSP and love it. However, my scores didn't go up that dramatically from a Ruger MkII I was using.

It just makes it a little more humbling when you can't blame the gun anymore and realize the "plain old regular .22" was still way better than you are capable (without more practice).

That said, there is a wide selection to choose from, new and used. Price is not everything, just usually easier to fine tune. And don't ignore used; its hard to shoot out a .22.
 
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You will find that among the high quality guns, say High Standards, S&W 41, Beretta 89, Walther GSP, the actual accuracy of the gun itself from a machine rest won't be that much different.

The style of the gun, smoothness of the trigger, etc,, say the Walther GSP, can make it easier for you the consistently hit the same spot.

Find out what you shoot the best.
 
Thanks very much for the info and advice. I'm in no rush to buy one, so will spend some time trying a few to see what "fits" the best.

Have a great day.
 
Be very carefull about a used Walt. GPS, as they will show
up with cracks ,
I am a Hi Standard fan, thou , the orignial ones, not the new ones,
S-W 41 very good, tho seem to be fussier about ammo.
My Hi-Standards love fed baulk pacs, the Fed Gold match etc is better,
but when you can't see the sights very good any more, ammo not that
important, as long as it works in the gun . The Brownind are very nice also.
 
I have a S&W model 41, three Rugers :confused: , and two High Standards (Citation and Trophy). I like the way the High Standards feel in my hand. This includes the balance.

I have put them on a Ransom rest and found the 41 to be just a little bit more accurate than the High Standard but not by enough to make any difference to a human.

For me the High Standard is more reliable than the 41. With the 41 I get jams or failure to ejects if I am shooting in a rapid fire situation. My fault that I'm breaking my wrist. But with the High Standard it doesn't seem to care and just keeps working with the dummy behind the trigger.

I never did like the Walthers. Wrong weight and balance.
 
Go to your local gun shop and try a few on for size. How any handgun fits your hand is the most important thing. If one doesn't quite fit, you can change grips to make it fit better.
With any .22, you have to try a box of as many brands as you can to find the ammo your pistol will both shoot accurately and cycle the action. The price of said ammo means nothing either. No two firearms, not just .22's, will shoot the same ammo the same way. Not even two consecutively serial numbered firearms.
"...seem to be fussier about ammo..." That's putting it mildly. Smith 41's are great pistols, but they're very fussy about the ammo. Mine will shoot Remington Target and IVI Standard velocity and nothing else.
"...I get jams or failure to ejects..." Change ammo.
 
sunray said:
"...I get jams or failure to ejects..." Change ammo.
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Ammo makes no difference. The gun does the same thing with different brands when I break my wrist. And works fine when I don't. This is no different than with a 1911. You have to hold the gun properly. My Citation with the open top is more forgiving compared to the slot the 41 has to eject from.

And as you say "change ammo". Doesn't that mean that the S&W is more sensitive since it will not shoot all kinds of ammo like other guns?
 
Had a few. One of my favorites was the short barrel S&W model 41 with the extendable front sight. The one that I did the best with however was the Walther GSP for which I had the 32 cal conversion kit as well as the dry firing trigger unit. Shot like a dream, 'uglier than a mud fence' but performed second to none for me.
 
Try wrapping your hands around a Hammerli X-esse Sport or Sig Trailside.
Adjustable trigger down to about 2lbs, adjustable ergo grips, interchangable barrel weights - from my experience these things shoot great, never had a single problem with ejecting, firing etc.
 
firejim said:
I did handle a Hammerli - my hand said "very nice". The price tag said "put me down and step away". Very nice gun, though.
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Yes the Sport model is around $1000 give or take IIRC, the "regular" model Hammerli Exesse is maybe around the $650 ?? mark....and one could always buy the ergo grips for it.

I haven't seen too many of these used come up for sale, but have seen one or two.
 
"...Ammo makes no difference..." Rubbish. Semi-auto .22's, be they rifles or pistols, will not shoot and cycle all ammo. Nor will a stock .45.
 
sunray said:
"...Ammo makes no difference..." Rubbish. Semi-auto .22's, be they rifles or pistols, will not shoot and cycle all ammo. Nor will a stock .45.
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Some guns are more sensitive to ammo. I will agree with you there.

What I was saying is the reason I get failure to ejects with my S&W 41 is because I am breaking my wrist when I shoot under stress. My fault. Ammo changes make no difference. The gun works great with all the ammo I have shot as long as I do my part.

If you limp wrist the gun you are more likely to get jams. If you limp wrist a .45 you will often have problems. It has nothing to do with the ammo.

As I said, I get jams with my S&W 41 when I don't use a proper grip. This does not seem to be a problem when I shoot my High Standards.
 
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