M&P 9mm problems-anyone uses SW Can serivce center?

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So my M&P 9mm is having failure to extract problem with 147gr Winchester. Totally unacceptable.

Good thing I did not rush out and sell my GLOCK. :rolleyes:

After contacting North Sylvia and S&W, I was told that Wortner Gunwork in Chatham is the official S&W service centre.

Had anyone ever sent any SEMI-AUTOMATIC to Wortner? Are they competent? I don't need to wait for another 3 weeks and be told "oh, I cannot see any problems and nothing is done" or just polish the chamber and return it without test firing.........I have no faith after so many years of returning things that don't work.
 
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I'd try to figure it out myself...

So the problem is only with Win 147? How often does it happen? what about other 147gr loads? Did you ever have a FTE with other ammo? I'm assuming the gun was clean...

maybe the extractor is broken? load too weak? ...etc

If it only happends with one type/brand of ammo, I'd just shoot other stuff..

I've only shot 124gr reloads in my M&P9 and NEVER had a single FTF or FTE...
 
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One of our shooters has an M&P that was having extraction issues after just a few hundred rounds. It seems to be very sensitive to the a dirty extractor. After cleaning, it was 100%.
 
We are having extraction problem with winchester factory 147gr over the last 700 rounds, whether it is clean or dirty. If the Glock and others can work on it, then the M&P should work on it too. I don't have time to do merry go around to collect a world variety ammo to figure out what it likes or it doesn't like. If it cannot eat a major manufacturing offering, it is junk. I won't count on a pistol that won't take a common offering by a major manufacturer.

It is going to be a mess...the gunsmith dude gonna test fire it with whatever he has and tell me the pistol works ok....and then I gonna explain it doesn't work with 147. Sounds oh so familiar. First sign of non-cooperation I gonna make S&W buy back this pistol.
 
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I don't think the smith has the time to play with differen ammo either, unless something is clearly brocken I IMO it would a waste of your time and money...

But I would call the place first and explain the problem to them and see what they say...
 
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I don't think the smith has the time to play with differen ammo either, unless something is clearly brocken I IMO it would a waste of your time and money...

But I would call the place first and explain the problem to them and see what they say...
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Have you tried calling S&W directly?

They are selling huge quantities of these- i'm sure they'll want to know of any issues.

Wortner does super work on revolvers & based on that i'm sure he's more than competent on semis. I also thought S& W had a warranty center for western Canada as well.
 
I thought they were going back to some place called DC Charleton (sp)?

I sent mine back a couple of weeks ago with FTE and FTF (light strikes) problems but mine was with 115 gr, 147 worked fine. Last I heard they said they'd put 100 rounds through it with no problems. I'm a bit disappointed since I was not the only shooter to have problems with this particular gun so I know there's something wrong. I'll have to see where this ends up.
 
I had a light strike with a 147gr ....double striking won't get it go either. I also had one failure to feed with a 115gr ball in the first outing. This is the most troublesome pistol I have ever had. I can shoot the M&P really really well -but what good is a pistol if it is not reliable? I have more failures with the M&P in 700 rounds than my 10 years with the Glocks.
 
Have you tried firing those rounds (those EXACT rounds) in another 9mm - it wouldn't be the first batch of bad Winchester out there, beyond that send it to Murray Charleton. Murray's being doing autopistols since the M39 was common, he's more famous for his revolvers but he does a ton of autos, and he's the Smith guy for western Canada. Oh yeah, and Don't Panic, it's not the end of the world unless it's your issue sidearm :)
 
The Glock 17 ate all the 147gr from the same case- as a matter of fact, my last 2000 rounds were all winchester 147gr.

I am not panic, I am just pissed off. Pistol should work right out of the box. Everytime I send it out, it costs me money and time. And the pistol should not be needed to send to repair new in the box the first place.
 
greentips said:
I had a light strike with a 147gr ....double striking won't get it go either. I also had one failure to feed with a 115gr ball in the first outing. This is the most troublesome pistol I have ever had. I can shoot the M&P really really well -but what good is a pistol if it is not reliable? I have more failures with the M&P in 700 rounds than my 10 years with the Glocks.
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I've tried Winclean and Fiocchi 115 gr and AE 147 gr. The AE fed and fired without a hitch but I haven't found anymore locally to see if it would work again. The Winclean and Fiocchi were equally as bad with my last 100 rounds of Fiocchi having 3 FTF and 12!!! FTE (stove pipes each time). It's not the ammo cause the guys I was shooting with were running the same batch through their SIG's with no issues.

I'm with you GT, we shouldn't have to run through a dozen brands of ammo to find one that works and even if it's not life and death we shouldn't have to accept an unreliable gun. That being said, our issues seem to be the rare exception so I still believe this will get fixed yet.
 
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We are having extraction problem with winchester factory 147gr over the last 700 rounds, whether it is clean or dirty. If the Glock and others can work on it, then the M&P should work on it too. I don't have time to do merry go around to collect a world variety ammo to figure out what it likes or it doesn't like. If it cannot eat a major manufacturing offering, it is junk. I won't count on a pistol that won't take a common offering by a major manufacturer.

It is going to be a mess...the gunsmith dude gonna test fire it with whatever he has and tell me the pistol works ok....and then I gonna explain it doesn't work with 147. Sounds oh so familiar. First sign of non-cooperation I gonna make S&W buy back this pistol.
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greentips said:
The Glock 17 ate all the 147gr from the same case- as a matter of fact, my last 2000 rounds were all winchester 147gr.

I am not panic, I am just pissed off. Pistol should work right out of the box. Everytime I send it out, it costs me money and time. And the pistol should not be needed to send to repair new in the box the first place.
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I'm with you 100% GT. Good guns work out of the box....

TDC
 
TDC said:
I'm with you 100% GT. Good guns work out of the box....

TDC
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Me too, but then my M&P40 has been flawless through 1,000+ rounds of various, weights, loads, types, factory and reloads.

I think I trust it more than my SP01.

Hope it gets sorted out to your satisfaction, and let us know.
 
Or you could just hacksaw off the beavertail and sand all the finish off the slide flats...and then sell it on GunNutz.
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:confused: what does that mean? btw I did that to my M&P...can I get a premium for it?

I'm with you 100% GT. Good guns work out of the box....
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I also agree; my M&P has been 100.00% and the gun has never seen a single round of factory ammo :)


GT have you tried M&P forum? maybe someone there can suggest something.
 
Ok, now you guys got me scared. I put a M&P 9 on hold, pending paperwork, just today... and now I'm reading about FTF and FTE problems???

Should I move forward, switch to the .40, or drop these plans and go for a Glock?? (my second/other choice)

This will/was/could be my first handgun so I don't want a lemon...not that anyone would.
 
Salvo said:
Ok, now you guys got me scared. I put a M&P 9 on hold, pending paperwork, just today... and now I'm reading about FTF and FTE problems???

Should I move forward, switch to the .40, or drop these plans and go for a Glock?? (my second/other choice)

This will/was/could be my first handgun so I don't want a lemon...not that anyone would.
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My M&P 9 has 2500 rounds through it in the last 6 months with one failure to feed which was an ammo problem. Problems are the exception but I agree they should be 100% out of the box.
 
I'm on my second M&P, yesterday I was at the range shooting Winchester Ranger 147 XTP JHP through it - 100 rounds flawless, 50 rounds AE 115, flawless and the last of my CF 124 Grain from 1967 also perfect. The weather was far from perfect- ice pellets, rain and a nasty frigid wind (for Victoria, that's bad) and the pistol was soaked and icy from getting left on the bench. The previous pistol went 1600 rounds without so much as a hiccup.
 
Salvo said:
Ok, now you guys got me scared. I put a M&P 9 on hold, pending paperwork, just today... and now I'm reading about FTF and FTE problems???

Should I move forward, switch to the .40, or drop these plans and go for a Glock?? (my second/other choice)

This will/was/could be my first handgun so I don't want a lemon...not that anyone would.
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I don't think this should scare you off Salvo, like I said I think this is the rare exception. Everyone else I've talked too has had nothing but positive experiences with the M&P. I'm sure there are Glock and SIG owners out there that have gotten a lemon.
 
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