See Through Scope rings... Good or Bad?

Do you think high "look under" scope rings are good?

  • Yes, they are as good as low rings (sight picture, rigidity)

    Votes: 9 13.8%

  • No, They are always poor quality and offer a poor scope POI

    Votes: 54 83.1%

  • Dont use any scoped rifles Or own any rifles with open sights

    Votes: 2 3.1%
  • Total voters
    65
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Do any of you think they are O.K. to use, or are they just plain a bad Idea?
I have a Remington 76 pump in .30-06 and it has open sights. I have not used the open sights, as I have always scoped it. Upon talking to people I know, most say the high see through rings are not good because they aren't rigid enough, and the scope has a hard time maintaining a good line with the actual bullet because it has to angle down so far to reach Point of Impact that after that it "crosses over" and you have to aim below objects beyond sighting in distance to get the bullet and scope to meet again.
I hope that made sense as It makes better sense in my mind than I can put in to words.
So do you think high "look under" rings are as good an alternative? Or are they more trouble than they are worth?
 
They suck!

1. Rings are made of aluminum and are weak given the height.
2. Shooting with them is quite hard as you have to lift your head off the comb to see through the scope properly.
3. They do lift the scope about 1" off the bore line, which is never good.


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Part of the reason I ask is that I ran into a grizzly 2 years ago at near point blank range, and I had that Remington in my hands. I immediately pointed the gun and all I saw was brown fur. Anyway, it got resolved without having to kill the grizzly, but I was shaken after that one. It bugged me that I would have had to "hip shoot" him to make sure I put it on him. I always wondered about if I had been able to use the open sights, would I have had a dead grizz story, or if he had decided I looked tasty, would I even be here to write about this. I certainly wouldn't have been able to aim at him to shoot.
 
Like the other guys have said, see throughs are more trouble than they are worth. If you are worried about bear encounters, maybe think about changing your scope (you don't mention what you have on your rifle) to a low powered variable like a 1.5 X 5 or something.
 
I've used them on a rem.7600 for years with no problem, but then again i have a long neck, so positioning isn't that much of a problem. The only thing, is that i never look under the scope to use the open sights.
 
Had them on a 308 once, could"nt keep the scope from moving in the rings. I blamed the lack of rigidity(if that"s even a word!) of the rings.
Like a lot of things, it sounds and looks like a great idea until you try it.
 
work fine for me

I have them on my BLR, 444, and Win trapper 44. They work fine for me; no problems with the scope moving or rings bending or moving. The 444 and BLR have taken a few bumps hunting, and all of them have put up with some pretty good recoil without moving. The 444 and BLR shoots 1 1/2 inch groups or under at 100 yds, which is fine for hunting. I'm talking lever action hunting guns here, not long range precision shooting, although I have shot the BLR out to 400 yds with certain handloads.

I have bolt guns with low rings. Actually the raised scope is more natural for me. Fit is likely an individual thing, so you should try one before you decide.

With lever guns like mine, you can use the hammer without a hammer extension, which I like. Of course that wouldn't apply for you.

If you're thinking of safety against dangerous game, do you really want only a scope if you're way back in the woods and you fall and damage the scope? I don't worry much about dangerous game here, but it is something you mention in your post.

I've used the open sights on mine on occasion on snowy days. But then, maybe you won't be walking through thick fir trees in snow or rain, so that the scope glass is getting covered.

Mine has worked for deer, bears, and moose, but then they are larger targets. I don't think the raised line of sight makes any difference in a practical hunting situation with my lever guns. I know it doesn't at the range, whether shooting 25 yds or 200 yds.

Okay, I missed a nice bear a few days ago at only 50 yds. :( Guess it was me though, with a case of bear-fever :) ,as the 444 checked out printing clover leafs at 50 yds a couple days later.
 
You crane for the sight picture with a scope and slouch for a sight picture with iron.

Poor shooters tend to blame everything except the see through rings.

They are CRAP!
 
One other thing I forgot to add; I usually carry my lever guns in the right hand with my hand around the receiver. With see-through mounts, my thumb goes between the scope and gun, which for me is a lot more comfortable and secure than carrying my bolt guns. But that is just my preference.

Yes they might look goofy, but if I was worried about the looks of the whole thing, I wouldn't be using a lever with any scope. Nor would I carry a pump action, scoped or otherwise. :D
 
I haven't used them, although I know several people who have them. None of them have ever used their iron sights. Ever.
A low-power variable may be the way to go, as previously said. That grizz had to have been almighty close for you to just see fur. I shot a whitetail on the run this year at between 15 and 20 feet using a 3-to-9X variable set at 3X. A 2-to-7X would be a great compromise; you should see a shootable target down to 10 feet or so....try it with a scope at a shop.
That bit of extra height above bore won't drastically change your POI at different ranges in a hunting rifle.
 
I have them on my 760. Seem to work OK for me. My reasoning was more to do with water on the scope lens, in case I got a chance at a quick shot sneaking through the bush. I now have the flip up scope covers, but still might be too slow.
 
I have a set on my deer rifle, I never use the irons but my stiff neck says it's much easier to shoot my deer rifle (no comb) with a very high mounted 1.5-5x scope, you may laugh but it works for me!
 
Here in Ontario during deer season, see-thru rings on top of a Rem 740/742 are almost as common as popcorn at the movies. Chances are good that the ammo in that gun is stamped "Imperial" ;)
 
They may work for some, but trust me, none of those abortions will ever be seen on a rifle I own!! I like a nice low, tight cheek weld on my hunting rifles, and see-through rings don't allow it. Eagleye.
 
pastway said:
RePete said:
You crane for the sight picture with a scope and slouch for a sight picture with iron.

Do you slouch with only iron sights? The iron sights don't move when you add see-through rings.
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You duck around the scope. I tried them and what a POS.

Red foreman said:
Can someone post a pic of this setup,I've haven't seen these see through rings.All my guns have normal scope rings or open sites.
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Check here.

http://ww w.gunaccessories.com/Weaver/See-ThroughMounts.asp
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