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That is what he said, not hard to miss comments like that.
I like this one:
Chasing them on a snowmobile is not cool to him, but I guess taking the chance of blowing a leg off or just wounding is
Long Range hunting cal.
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That is what he said, not hard to miss comments like that.
I like this one:
Chasing them on a snowmobile is not cool to him, but I guess taking the chance of blowing a leg off or just wounding is
You nailed it on the head Crazy and I knew the "ethics commity" would show face.
Im just poising the idea of trying long range shooting and people near $hit themselves.
Aside for hunting on an open tundra or a rolling prairie...
To me longer range in the woods means less chance of proper identification, proper backdrop safety, and waaay more time, and distance for the game to escape if wounded.
Longer range sounds like more risk, and more work to me.
This year with my 300 Win mag I'm not taking a shot beyond 200 meters in our hunting environment.
But I can bet that as always the Deer will show up between 20, and 100 meters.
To me longer range in the woods means less chance of proper identification, proper backdrop safety, and waaay more time, and distance for the game to escape if wounded.
Longer range sounds like more risk, and more work to me.
This year with my 300 Win mag I'm not taking a shot beyond 200 meters in our hunting environment.
But I can bet that as always the Deer will show up between 20, and 100 meters.
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When I said that the .300 is used for wolves, the fact is that you CANNOT CHASE ANIMALS BY LAW ON A SNOWMACHINE. You may travel to your hunting destination by one, then if you see a wolf , you must stalk, this goes for any big game animal. No animal can outrun a snowmachine. Not a fair fight. Its not like you can walk up to a wolf ( I have never in 10 years seen them anywhere but on huge 20+ miles lakes.) Stalking is impossible as they can see you coming for half a mile. This makes them near impossible to shoot without a long shot ( I have tagged the 2 I have shot at beyond 500 yards)
If there was any way to hunt them other than the way I have seen, I would do it. But wolf hunting is a super small part of anyones hunting up here. I dont say that long range hunting is impossible, I said most people dont do what it takes to be successful at it, and not being properly prepared or practiced is what is not ethical. If you can do it with a high percentage, fill your boots. I said that guys often use average factory ammo, stock rifles, mediocre optics, and are poorly practiced yet still think they can drop a moose at 600 yards because they hear guys say they do it all the time. I know a lot of hunters are skilled at long range shooting, I am just frowning on the ones who "show up for game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals wearing their shinny gear and a taped together stick and blunt blades"
If there was any way to hunt them other than the way I have seen, I would do it. But wolf hunting is a super small part of anyones hunting up here. I dont say that long range hunting is impossible, I said most people dont do what it takes to be successful at it, and not being properly prepared or practiced is what is not ethical. If you can do it with a high percentage, fill your boots. I said that guys often use average factory ammo, stock rifles, mediocre optics, and are poorly practiced yet still think they can drop a moose at 600 yards because they hear guys say they do it all the time. I know a lot of hunters are skilled at long range shooting, I am just frowning on the ones who "show up for game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals wearing their shinny gear and a taped together stick and blunt blades"
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I understand that, but this thread is not about unprepared hunters shooting beyond their capabilities.
Here is what Scott asked:
I was chased up a hill when working in norther BC, by a mad moose. I had a load of wood on the pulk behind my trusty snow mobile. Put it this way, when I looked down at the speedo, it said 70km of track speed. When I turned around he was trying to flip the pulk with a antler lift. He chased me up a hill for about 400m. scared me $hitless. Next year he ended up in my freezer come september
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I love my 300WM there are lots of flavors to choose from. Most important is to pick something you can comfortably shoot and if you have/want to go bigger then consider a muzzle brake. Having huge horse power for LR shooting doesn't go to far if you can't keep it on target reliably at distance.
My vote goes to 300wm of 340w. These work at long range for big animals. I've shot deer with my 280 at good range & a coyote at 540yd with a 243. Thw 300 & 340 are what I've used, there are others as good I'm sure, but these I know. 375 was mentioned & is a cal. I love but have never shot oner 200. just my view AJ
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300 win mag and dont look back...
I suppose it depends on what you consider long range. Quarter mile? The world is full of quarter mile rifles, somewhat short of quarter mile shooters. Half mile? Some friends are doing some good work with .338 Edges in purpose built rifles. The .338 Lapua and Swamp Donkey also have a loyal following.
Don't worry about it.If what you want to do is legal and you strive to be the best at it you can possibly be, then have at it.
You sure don't sound unethical to me.You seem to have started out about it the right way in my opinion.You were unsure about something and asked for the opinion of those who have experiance with it.
Sounds like a responsable way to start out with what you want to do.Gathering info.
Seems to me that way to often......
" ETHICAL " --- seems to be the way that the person who bought it up hunts and does things themselves.
"UNETHICAL " --- is any type of hunting or manner of doing something that is different then they themselves do.
Good luck with what you want to do.I am sure that there are alot of guys on here who can help you out with it.
Have a great night.
I like the 300Win and the fast 338's for long range hunting, but in reality given a solid rest in perfect wind conditions 500 yards is a chip shot with the 30-06.
What is more important than caliber is an adjustable (target) or trajectory compensating scope, a range finder, and verified bullet drop data. Once you have these all you need to be concerned with is the wind, a steady hold and making sure the animal doesn't move....
The biggest advantage the 300mag or fast 338 has over the 30-06 is the ability to shoot the big aerodynamic bullets....They help a bit in wind errors
What is more important than caliber is an adjustable (target) or trajectory compensating scope, a range finder, and verified bullet drop data. Once you have these all you need to be concerned with is the wind, a steady hold and making sure the animal doesn't move....
The biggest advantage the 300mag or fast 338 has over the 30-06 is the ability to shoot the big aerodynamic bullets....They help a bit in wind errors
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I'm all over those ones with you bud, both great calibers. 338 Lapua Ackley Improved is my all time favorite, hands down a kick butt round. Balistics are about as good as your going to squeeze out of a 300gr round, brass life is good, as is 338 Lapua brass. No problems taking an animal at range. The only down side to both these calibers is the initial cost of buying/building the rifle. With the 338 Lapua Ackley Improved it would certainly be the cost of brass, both need custom dies as well.
If cost was not an issue, either of these calibers are SOOOO much fun to play with.
7MM RM (Handloaded) 7mmWSM, 300 WSM, 300 WM are all common cartridges and good options for longer range hunting.
The larger cases like RUM's don't really give you all that more, in most hunting situations.
Whenever the topic of long range hunting comes up, there are the people that cry foul. yes, some people shoot past thier capabilities. So what? Some people have no business shooting at 200 yards either. Who gets to draw the ethical/unethical line?
The larger cases like RUM's don't really give you all that more, in most hunting situations.
Whenever the topic of long range hunting comes up, there are the people that cry foul. yes, some people shoot past thier capabilities. So what? Some people have no business shooting at 200 yards either. Who gets to draw the ethical/unethical line?
