L1A1 Question

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A buddy of mine is looking at picking up an FN L1A1 and has a couple questions. While I carried one in my youth, I don't know a lot about their markings, so I thought I would put it out here.

It has a AD prefix serial number, the receiver is marked S R A but the selector stops at the R, the selector switch has a D on it and a big weld blob in the center, the bolt carrier has V shaped sand cuts, the handguard has three round holes on each side, and there appear to be Israeli star markings.

I believe the rifle to be Australian, but the S R A markings with the selector stoping at R makes me thing it had full auto capabilities at one time, which I didn't think the Australian's had. Any assistance would be appreciated.

Thanks.
 
Hi Mac, yes I think you have an Aussie L1A1. As for the A on the lower reciever, I think they used the same lower as the L2
 
If it's off an L2, should it be registered as a 12(3), or a 12(5)rifle?

I thought the uppers were the registered part of an FN-stlye rifle, but I said, I'm not a big FN guy. That might change if my buddy doesn't take it though.

Thanks for the replies.
 
The markings are standard.
Is it also marked SPF (Singapore Police Force)? There was a batch of these Australian L1A1s imported.
 
So if the L1A1 and L2A1 share a common lower receiver, then it's the upper receiver that decides if it's 12(3) or 12(5)?

I didn't see any SPF markings

Thanks again for all the info.
 
If the firearm was manufactured as an L2, its an L2; if it was manufactured as an L1, its an L1.
Its original configuration would determine its classification.
 
Thanks for all the replies and information. I'll pass it on to my buddy and if he has any other questions, I know this is the place to ask.

Mac
 
The upper on FN's are the contolled part. (C1's/L1's all had the notch at the auto position but only the C2/L2 and C1A1D's were marked A).

The star you see is a Lithgow mark that is different than the Isreali Star of David
 
He can own 12(5) rifles, but not 12(3). That's why I wanted to see if it was built as semi only or converted to semi only.

It's not a dewat. The selector goes from S to R then stops just slightly past R as it approaches the pistol grip. All the internals appear to be in working order. I just don't know what that weld is for.
 
"...not 12(3)..." Some L1A1's were FA. Some were semi-auto only. If there's an 'A' on the receiver, it's a 12(3). SRA means Safe, Repeat and Automatic. The 'A' will make him all droolly and crazy.
 
sunray said:
"...not 12(3)..." Some L1A1's were FA. Some were semi-auto only. If there's an 'A' on the receiver, it's a 12(3). SRA means Safe, Repeat and Automatic. The 'A' will make him all droolly and crazy.
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There is a great amount of inconsistancy with FN/FAL registrations. Only the uppers made without the sear cut seem absolute, and even of those I wouldn't stake my life that none were registered as C/A.
 
I hear L1A1 (or FN) and I get all drolly and crazy because I can't have one.. and I could have had several when I were a younger man...
 
sunray said:
"...not 12(3)..." Some L1A1's were FA. Some were semi-auto only. If there's an 'A' on the receiver, it's a 12(3). SRA means Safe, Repeat and Automatic. The 'A' will make him all droolly and crazy.
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"R" stands for repetition not repeat, but otherwise he's right.

Even though the lowers for C1's and C2's were the exact same except for the "A" being marked and the 3 parts that differed dimensionally from the C1, it was originally part of an auto weapon and is treated as such in CFC's eyes. Despite the fact that the upper is the registered part and are identical for both with the exception of markings and sights.

Make sense?
 
recce said:
Make sense?
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Sure where you can have a PSP but not a snub nose 38... A 22 with a drum, a AR with 5 or 10 if the markings on the magazine are just right.... But you can't hunt with the AR but if you wanted too you could with a Mini-14 with a collapsible stock....


Sure it all makes sense...
 
all L1A1 rifles have the three selector positions....british or australia. the selectors have a "paddle" like safety for semi-auto and no "paddle" for FA. most all of the australian L1A1's came from singapore police.
 
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