New Tactical Shotguns

Wow that's cheap for a semi. Nice looking gun too. I try to stay away from the overly cheap stuff as you always "get what you pay for"
I'd like to hear some range reports. Might be worth a look.
 
From Tomahawk's website:

We are manufacturing over and under shotguns since 1998 particularly smaller gauges.our manufacturing is located at the main city of gun manufactuting center of Turkey in BEYSEHIR industrial area.In addition our products we are marketing also our partner and neighbour producers.Our export branch is developed by international standards.all quality control is made same methods of UK CIP methods.we give the best service to our customers before or after purchase.supporting with spare parts and make production according to our buyer demand.we are not working with oriential methods we just try to satisfy best of all .Currently we are exporting our products to USA and GERMANY and CANADA.we like to devolope our markets all over the world.at the same time we will increase our capacity and modified very new models.for a longterm business with a straight way please contact with us.
 
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MIKE OX BIG;
I never cease to be amazed at the broad knowledge of all the experts out there....
No sooner have these guns arrived and you already know all about them, "I try to stay away from the overly cheap stuff as you always get what you pay for"

HOW did you arrive at this conclusion ? You were present during our preproduction tests here and in Turkey ?

You were privey to the lab reports ?

You examined the guns and conducted a QC examination ?
Before and after the field tests ?

How many rounds did you fire during your evaluation ?
John
 
Yep, let us be fair and hear of ACTUAL reports from users.

Someone will no doubt buy one (or several) of these new shotguns and shoot the hell out of them. Then I hope they are kind enough to share with us how well they work and how well they hold up. Judge not unless ye own one!
 
johnone said:
MIKE OX BIG;
I never cease to be amazed at the broad knowledge of all the experts out there....
No sooner have these guns arrived and you already know all about them, "I try to stay away from the overly cheap stuff as you always get what you pay for"

HOW did you arrive at this conclusion ? You were present during our preproduction tests here and in Turkey ?

You were privey to the lab reports ?

You examined the guns and conducted a QC examination ?
Before and after the field tests ?

How many rounds did you fire during your evaluation ?
John
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It would be fair if you quoted ALL of the post you're upset about. He made a passing observation about his preference in guns but wanted to learn more about the ones you are flogging here.

Mike Oxbig said:
Wow that's cheap for a semi. Nice looking gun too. I try to stay away from the overly cheap stuff as you always "get what you pay for"
I'd like to hear some range reports. Might be worth a look.
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So tell us about your tests both pre-production and in Turkey. Were you present in Turkey for the testing?
 
CLAYBUSTER;
I'm surprised at your questions, how stupid do you really think we are ?
Marstar is a multi million dollar business, do you think we arrived at this point in our 25 years of mail order selling by offering un-tried and un-tested firearms ?

We had our manager present for some testing and early prototype production....

We did testing here in Canada at our range....

As for disclosing our tests, trials, mods, experiments etc, etc, let our competetion find out for themselves....

While you are at it, why not ask Remington, Smith & Wesson, COlt or others for their test results ?

Come on fellas, lets get real
John
 
johnone said:
CLAYBUSTER;
I'm surprised at your questions, how stupid do you really think we are ?
Marstar is a multi million dollar business, do you think we arrived at this point in our 25 years of mail order selling by offering un-tried and un-tested firearms ?

We had our manager present for some testing and early prototype production....

We did testing here in Canada at our range....

As for disclosing our tests, trials, mods, experiments etc, etc, let our competetion find out for themselves....

While you are at it, why not ask Remington, Smith & Wesson, COlt or others for their test results ?

Come on fellas, lets get real
John
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Well you're the guy who opened his yap about it.

You also gave the impression that you were in Turkey for the test. Read your own words.

You're WAY too sensitive about some fairly reasonable questions about the latest line of shotguns you are bringing in.

You also asked how stupid I really think you are. Do you really want the answer? It's probably enough to note that despite being in the business for all those years that you don't seem to have a clue about the current laws on magazine limits for semi-auto shotguns. But in fairness to you it's not the first time I've heard wrong information from a gun salesman.

Based on your attitude alone I wouldn't touch one of your Turkish delights on a bet.
 
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John,

Can you give us a bit more info please?
Will the Tomahawk cycle both light loads and heavy loads or only heavy loads?
Is the gas system adjustable for light and heavy shells?


Thanks!
 
True enough John. Like I said before its probably easy these days to produce a reliable semi auto and sell it cheap. Something you bring to the range and blast until it hurts. Or hunt with and never fails. But for how long? How many rounds until wear sets in? My question would be. Is the steel and aluminum that makes up this shotgun as strong and as wear resistant as a beretta's or benelli's? Its all about material quality. Good Steel and Aluminum dont come cheap these days. And proper heat treating to boot. I dont know guys, I wouldnt want her fallin apart when the Zombies COme!!!
Beretacus
 
John,

Any chance the mag tubes can be reworked to hold the correct legal limit, or perhaps accept the extended tube of the pump (with obvious modification).
 
Claybuster said:
Based on your attitude alone I wouldn't touch one of your Turkish delights on a bet.
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Based on JOHNONE's flip remarks regarding anything anyone dares to say about MARSTAR or any of its products is one reason I would NEVER spend a penny with this vendor.

There seems to be a reluctance to answer simple questions or correct posters observations of a product line, instead they always seem to be met with the same hostility as shown in the above posts.
 
CLAYBUSTER:
"You also gave the impression that you were in Turkey for the test"
Perhaps I was NOT clear enough, as I mentioned later on, our manager was there.

"It's probably enough to note that despite being in the business for all those years that you don't seem to have a clue about the current laws on magazine limits for semi-auto shotguns"
Once again perhaps I was NOT clear enough for you, this is the way they were approved, not wanting long delays I accepted that.... If you wish to extand the capacity that is your choice....

"But in fairness to you it's not the first time I've heard wrong information from a gun salesman. "
That is an interesting statement, I have been called many things in my long life, but a mere "gun salesman" come on, can't you come up with something a little more creative....
I would guess by your expert and well thought out comments that I have likely been in the arms trade for longer than you have been on this green earth....

You have a nice week end
John
 
SMOOTHBORE;
In general I can answer your question on a positive note, yes it feeds almost anything you feed it....
I say this with reserve, no it won't feed super light loads, it won't feed those short shells used in cowboy action shooting.
We have cycled thousands of rounds though them, from 1oz light loads up to 3" heavy magnum loads, no problems.
On the other hand I think you will agree that any SA shotgun tends to be a little bit fussy as to what you feed it, unlike a pump which will digest just about anything.
I hope I ahve answered your questions
John
 
AUBIE;
Of course we share your concerns, as I pointed out previously our guns are made in the same factory as many of "trade names" on the market.
Our steel receivers are used for military and police contracts, because they specify it..... Much more expensive.

We have not experienced much difference in wear and destruction tests of either of our receivers....

Bottom line, look at our warranty
Regards
John
 
johnone said:
That is an interesting statement, I have been called many things in my long life, but a mere "gun salesman" come on, can't you come up with something a little more creative....
I would guess by your expert and well thought out comments that I have likely been in the arms trade for longer than you have been on this green earth....

You have a nice week end
John
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That would make you a VERY old gun salesman or "arms trader" if that's your designation of preference.

And I have been on this "green earth" long enough to be suspect of people who in the process of attempting to sell items are critical of people when they pose reasonable questions.
 
CANUCK223;
As I said, we made them as per the accepted "suggestions"
Yes the tubes can be extended.
The problem we face is this, as delivered the mag accepts 4rds of 3" mag shells, if one elects to use some of those 2.1/2' shells the capacity goes up....
We will offer tubes in the future if the demand is there
John
 
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