Pellet pistol for grouse.
- Thread starter savagefan
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- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
You might find that a CO-2 gun is effected in the cold, although I'm not sure how much velocity drop you might observe. A better bet would be a Diana or Weihrauch rifle. I'm trying to talk my nephew into getting a HW-80.
CO2 is hampered a little bit in cold weather ... crossman made a nice pump
.22 air pistol and Weihrauch makes the HW 45 in .22 both will work at reasonably close range. You could also consider some shot loads or lead ball loads for your CF rifle - some calibres are easier to adapt a light "bird" load to than others .. they can be pretty quiet
.22 air pistol and Weihrauch makes the HW 45 in .22 both will work at reasonably close range. You could also consider some shot loads or lead ball loads for your CF rifle - some calibres are easier to adapt a light "bird" load to than others .. they can be pretty quiet
Please pardon my ignorance, the 2008 Alberta hunting regs are posted and I can't find any restrictions for hunting with handguns or air/gas guns of any kind for grouse. Could you please point out the section for me? Thanx.
FishDoc
CGN frequent flyer
I tried a Crossman CO2 rifle1077 with a new tank( so full powered) in .177 cal. - hit a grouse at 20 yards with 3 pellets(rapid fire) and it laughed at me and flew away - ok they werent head shots, but it was under powered. Now it is a .410 all the way - back packers work well under 30 yards. Just my experience.
Dr.O
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peter2772000
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- Location
- Montreal, Quebec, Canada
I'm in shock here. I do admit that I haven't been hunting for years, but I clearly remember not being allowed to hunt anything with an air rifle. At least here in Quebec.
I'm in shock here. I do admit that I haven't been hunting for years, but I clearly remember not being allowed to hunt anything with an air rifle. At least here in Quebec.
nope pleny of stuff you could hunt with an air rifle. Everything in the book where it says caliber=any in fact
peter2772000
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Incredible. In the 80's/early 90's, the gang I hunted with didn't even want me with them if I brought along an air rifle, even if I left it in the truck. I wonder if this was simply a case of misinformation...
At 20 feet or less a .177 pellet to the chickens head from a 6" Crossman CO2 pistol with a fresh CO2 cartridge will drop it. It'll still be fluttering but you just pick them up by the head and wring their necks. Easy peasy.
For CO2 power, the Crosman model 2240, hands down.
Readily available, and there is a LOT of info available online for tuning them up, and making them even more accurate. Most are shooting well under the 500fps limit, stock, and some minor tuning can bring them up to just under the limit. .22 pellets are heavier and carry more energy downrange, and fly plenty flat enough, for grouse range.
The Crosman punp-up guns are not affected by temperature, and the only thing you need to carry is pellets. The current carbine "Backpacker" model is derived from the Model 130/1300/1377/1322 series of multi pump pneumatic pistols. Good stuff. I like the older ones. More metal, less plastic.
Big bonus of the pumpers, is that you can pick and choose for your power levels by varying the number of pumps.
Again,I'd choose a .22 cal. More smack downrange within the 500 fps limits.
Again, you can find a lot of mod info online, including stuff on bigbores, using roundball or cast/ swaged bullets, pushed to pretty reasonable velocities. $$$
Dunno what's in this years regs, but IIRC there was a very short blurb about no handguns at all that I saw in last years. Look under the list of things that are not allowed. IIRC, handguns were there.
Dig around online, and find the Canadian Airgun Forum. There is a subforum there on airgun hunting, with rundowns on the various regs in the provinces.
I figure if I cannot carry an air pistol, tucked away, and have to carry a rifle, it might just as well be a rimfire.
Take a look at the Hammond GameGetter too. Uses powernailer loads to push a sized roundball out at subsonic velocities (depends on the loads used) and they are pretty quiet. I have whacked a fair number of grouse with one.
Cheers
Trev
Readily available, and there is a LOT of info available online for tuning them up, and making them even more accurate. Most are shooting well under the 500fps limit, stock, and some minor tuning can bring them up to just under the limit. .22 pellets are heavier and carry more energy downrange, and fly plenty flat enough, for grouse range.
The Crosman punp-up guns are not affected by temperature, and the only thing you need to carry is pellets. The current carbine "Backpacker" model is derived from the Model 130/1300/1377/1322 series of multi pump pneumatic pistols. Good stuff. I like the older ones. More metal, less plastic.
Big bonus of the pumpers, is that you can pick and choose for your power levels by varying the number of pumps.
Again,I'd choose a .22 cal. More smack downrange within the 500 fps limits.
Again, you can find a lot of mod info online, including stuff on bigbores, using roundball or cast/ swaged bullets, pushed to pretty reasonable velocities. $$$
Dunno what's in this years regs, but IIRC there was a very short blurb about no handguns at all that I saw in last years. Look under the list of things that are not allowed. IIRC, handguns were there.
Dig around online, and find the Canadian Airgun Forum. There is a subforum there on airgun hunting, with rundowns on the various regs in the provinces.
I figure if I cannot carry an air pistol, tucked away, and have to carry a rifle, it might just as well be a rimfire.
Take a look at the Hammond GameGetter too. Uses powernailer loads to push a sized roundball out at subsonic velocities (depends on the loads used) and they are pretty quiet. I have whacked a fair number of grouse with one.
Cheers
Trev
Hunting with a handgun is illegal everywhere in Canada.
"...please point out the section for me?..." Under 'General Regulations', 'General Prohibitions'. Seventh line under paragraph '5'. No pistols or revolvers.
Air/gas powered handguns become firearms under Provincial hunting regs. Even though most are not considered to be firearms under the FA, unless the muzzle velocity is greater than 500fps and the muzzle energy is higher than 4.2 ft-lbs.
AB defines a 'weapon' as anything that can propel a projectile by any means(springs, air and gas included). Don't have a clue why they don't define a firearm.
http://www.albertaregulations.ca/huntingregs/
"...please point out the section for me?..." Under 'General Regulations', 'General Prohibitions'. Seventh line under paragraph '5'. No pistols or revolvers.
Air/gas powered handguns become firearms under Provincial hunting regs. Even though most are not considered to be firearms under the FA, unless the muzzle velocity is greater than 500fps and the muzzle energy is higher than 4.2 ft-lbs.
AB defines a 'weapon' as anything that can propel a projectile by any means(springs, air and gas included). Don't have a clue why they don't define a firearm.
http://www.albertaregulations.ca/huntingregs/
- Location
- Back in the Peace Country
i always used a crack barrel pellet gun, that gave 495 fps.
killed squirrels and crows at 20 yrds. Smaller stuff at 50 yrds.
On the crows, i never ever killed one stone dead. always took a number of shotss. I wouldn't use it for grouse unless i had no option
killed squirrels and crows at 20 yrds. Smaller stuff at 50 yrds.
On the crows, i never ever killed one stone dead. always took a number of shotss. I wouldn't use it for grouse unless i had no option
