Remington .308 What Do You Think?

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Ok so Im contimplating getting a Remington 700 SPS Tactical, with a McMillan Tactical Stock With all the extras, etc (.308 Win), So i wanted to get an idea of what people think, it will be used as an all around gun ie. paper killin, deer, and elk . Jus Some thoughts on the calibre and the overall quality would be grealty appreciated, also if any of you own one, pics would be cool, let me know, thanks


oh ya the whole set up as described will run approx $1,600
 
my thoughts is that will be a heavy gun to lug around hunting. i'd place it right around 10 pounds with no optics or bipod.

1600 with out optics ?
 
$1600? I just looked at SIR/Cabela's webpage and their isn't a Remington 700 on the for more than $1179.99 and thats for the Remington Model 700 XCR Tactical Long Range Rifle. I think you should shop around.
 
maynard, he said the whole setup, including a mcmillan stock which run 700 - 800 dollars
 
The .308 will kill any game in North America. The Rem 700 is the rifle to which all others are compared. However, adding the word 'tactical' to anything adds to the price.
 
my thoughts is that will be a heavy gun to lug around hunting. i'd place it right around 10 pounds with no optics or bipod.

1600 with out optics ?

How about 8.5 lbs without optics? I just weighed it as quoted. The SPS Tactical has a 20" barrel. Depending on the optics it could weigh 10 lbs dressed with optics and bipod.

SPS Tactical $750.00 McMillan A5 stock $650.00 to $985.00, bedding $150.00, triggerwork $40.00, so as you can see things add up quickly.
 
I got both of my 700P's, 223/762, with glass and harris bipods for right around 1,000 delivered, it takes awhile to scour the CGN seas but from time to time deals do surface

308/762 excellent round for the above stated applications, but fully decked out may be a little on the cumbersome side
 
rick, my bad, i though the sps tactical had a full 26".

that hogue stock looks a little thin in the forend though
 
The .308 is a decent hunting cartridge, and one that seems to do well when chambered in a short barreled rifle, but I for one would not even consider a heavy barrel for a hunting rig, particularly if I was hunting on foot.

In hunting the placement of the first shot is the most critical, and a heavy barrel has no advantage in this regard over a light barrel. A quarter minute hunting rifle is a nice thing to have and it builds confidence, but the chances are that you cannot make use of that accuracy in the field, nor will you be firing a five shot group. Next time you are at the range, make up two targets. On the first target have a 2 minute bull, and the second target just a large piece of plain paper. Now there are things you can do to get decent groups on the plain paper, but those groups will not compare favorably to the groups fired at the target with the aiming point, particularly if you introduce a time element. In hunting, particularly in the early morning or evening, you might be shooting at a silhouette rather than at a target that you can see a specific aiming point on and you might have only a moment before it makes cover.

Another mistake lots of guys make is over scoping the rifle that will probably be used to kill a deer within 150 yards. Snap shooting at close range with a 20X scope would try the patience of a saint, although you must balance scope power with the area you are hunting. Alberta provides many opportunities for the long range rifleman, but for most of us, a low power variable is the best hunting glass. There are those who will disagree, but big game is big, and once located at normal hunting ranges it is not difficult to see. If you can't hit it with a 6X scope, then you probably can't hit with a 10X either. A 4.5-14X might give the illusion of versatility, but the scopes tend to be larger than necessary, and are more sensitive to rough handling.
 
You've raised a valid point but let me introduce you to this thought. You want to buy a 308 that will do both, be able to do field work but also shoot great groups and be competitive at the range. Why not dress up one gun for both applications. I think guys put way too much emphasis on making the gun as light as possible because they've got to carry it in the field. I think both extreme sides of the sprectrom can be totally overboard but a 10lb gun with optics is somewhere in the middle. If you consider what you wear into the field and weigh that or just step on the scale and weigh yourself vs the gun, you'll find that a little less around your mid section is a whole lot better all around then trying to make a feather weight out of a firearm. Also too, most guys drive around and shoot out of their truck or very close to anyway. For those that actually get out and do some walking, it's kind of like getting up one morning and walking a marathon; of course you're going to feel it because it's something you haven't trained for. I guess that's why when I grab my 308
(17lbs) or my 338LM (19lbs) the weight is something I can live with because I know that if the gun is getting heavy after a couple of hours, it's not the gun's fault, it's my fault.
I'd rather spend the money on one gun with great optics then spend half the money on two rifles that take up more space in my safe and are half or less the quality then the first choice.
 
i thought the same way , i wanted a heavy barelled gun for target shooting and could be used for hunting , yes the completed gun may be on the heavy side so i need to exercise my arm muscles to carry the gun atleast i know the gun is accurate ,
 
Whose factory synthetic would you say is the best? Or are they all best avoided? What would you say is the best from the factory? Laminates?

In my opinion NONE of the plastic stocks are worth a using.
The fiberglass 1s used on some of the factory rifles are typically made by HS, B&C or McMillan and are excellent for structure, reliability and adaptability. This tends to make the rifles more expensive, but less expensive if you buy the tupperware then throw it away and replace it with a fiberglass stock.
Laminates also are ridgid and provide a good solid stock to work with.

Plastic is a wonderful thing to make milk jugs with, just not rifle stocks.
 
Weight

The weight of these guns does not seem anything like my sendero. I like my minitac because it seems lighter with the short barrel and balance and it is quick to get a shot off as it seems easy to swing and isnt top heavy. It is nicely balanced and compact so that for accuracy for that price within 200 yards it seems great. It seems effortless to get a shot off and the action is smooth. The kick is negligible. The stock may be cheap but it is comfortable. Im not sure why one would complain with this sort of accuracy with this sort of price for hunting.
 
Macho idiocy.

I would agree with you about 4.5. Geez to try to find an animal quick is murder in the bush. Why I dont buy Bushnell's with firefly instead of Luep, zeiss and nightforce is pure macho idiocy. The scope that I was happiest with was a 3200 on a 30-06.

The .308 is a decent hunting cartridge, and one that seems to do well when chambered in a short barreled rifle, but I for one would not even consider a heavy barrel for a hunting rig, particularly if I was hunting on foot.

In hunting the placement of the first shot is the most critical, and a heavy barrel has no advantage in this regard over a light barrel. A quarter minute hunting rifle is a nice thing to have and it builds confidence, but the chances are that you cannot make use of that accuracy in the field, nor will you be firing a five shot group. Next time you are at the range, make up two targets. On the first target have a 2 minute bull, and the second target just a large piece of plain paper. Now there are things you can do to get decent groups on the plain paper, but those groups will not compare favorably to the groups fired at the target with the aiming point, particularly if you introduce a time element. In hunting, particularly in the early morning or evening, you might be shooting at a silhouette rather than at a target that you can see a specific aiming point on and you might have only a moment before it makes cover.

Another mistake lots of guys make is over scoping the rifle that will probably be used to kill a deer within 150 yards. Snap shooting at close range with a 20X scope would try the patience of a saint, although you must balance scope power with the area you are hunting. Alberta provides many opportunities for the long range rifleman, but for most of us, a low power variable is the best hunting glass. There are those who will disagree, but big game is big, and once located at normal hunting ranges it is not difficult to see. If you can't hit it with a 6X scope, then you probably can't hit with a 10X either. A 4.5-14X might give the illusion of versatility, but the scopes tend to be larger than necessary, and are more sensitive to rough handling.
 
Remington 700 XCR TLR in .308 = awesome gun.
It is not to heavy at all for hunting. I have gone on 6 hour treks into the woods carrying this gun and I have no complaints.
 
i have a Remington 700 SPS DM in 7mm Rem Mag. since you want to hunt, i'd suggest this one over the tactical or police model. it's quite a bit lighter and is very accurate.

here's a pic. i've since added a bipod.

Remington 700 SPS DM
Bushnell Elite 3200 3-9x40mm
Butler Creek Flip Up Scope Caps
Shooters Ridge Rock Mount 6"-9" Pivot Bipod (not in picture)
Browning Sling (not in picture)

total retail cost was probably around 1200 or 1300 bucks after tax. i don't recall exactly.

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