I think that he's keying in on the grace period, not the descion itself. In any event, posts like his certainly don't make it very clear...
Exemptions Gone
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I think that he's keying in on the grace period, not the descion itself. In any event, posts like his certainly don't make it very clear...
stormbringer
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Nothing in the replies make any sense what so ever.
Something smells a tad rank.
Something smells a tad rank.
Get with the program
After shooting IPSC for 24 years, why can these dolts that don't like the rules just go play with themselves. When someone does not like a rule just ignore it or change it. In Canada we are supposed to play by the IPSC rules, they are published and used the world over except for the USPSA and Canada? You can argue the USPSA rules that do not conform to the world and they make little sense, most are driven by the gun companies and after market suppliers, do virtually anything you want to a production gun on the inside but careful about the holster you use. If Canada had the balls in the beginning to go with the world rules we would all have 126mm mags in standard. Exceptions only get you into trouble when you travel to the big world out there. USPSA started the problem by not wanting to comply to the rules and Canada the sheep followed suit in some areas. Anyone wanting Canada to join the USPSA opens a whole other can of worms, the USPSA is not perfect The whole point of the rules is safety and a level playing field for all,exemptions will only cause trouble down the line as noted in this thread.
After shooting IPSC for 24 years, why can these dolts that don't like the rules just go play with themselves. When someone does not like a rule just ignore it or change it. In Canada we are supposed to play by the IPSC rules, they are published and used the world over except for the USPSA and Canada? You can argue the USPSA rules that do not conform to the world and they make little sense, most are driven by the gun companies and after market suppliers, do virtually anything you want to a production gun on the inside but careful about the holster you use. If Canada had the balls in the beginning to go with the world rules we would all have 126mm mags in standard. Exceptions only get you into trouble when you travel to the big world out there. USPSA started the problem by not wanting to comply to the rules and Canada the sheep followed suit in some areas. Anyone wanting Canada to join the USPSA opens a whole other can of worms, the USPSA is not perfect The whole point of the rules is safety and a level playing field for all,exemptions will only cause trouble down the line as noted in this thread.
IPSC is great mate. What a bunch of siht disturbers. Bend over and like it, eh? Pope Nicolas has run out of dispensations.
Greetings from over 'ome
Just because someone hasn't added hundreds of replies to "Girls with Guns" means their opinion is less valid and their comments ignored? Previous poster provides some food for thought about where the exceptions have led us. I may not agree, but that doesn't mean I'm going to belittle his thoughts on the matter or dismiss them out of hand.
We have some issues that require more than just #####ing and complaining, we need to develop some solutions. This means working together, and hearing input from all parties concerned, even if we don't agree with what they have to say.
What have you got against "Girls with Guns"? Are you trying to say something about how I spend my time at work, at home, on my blackberry, and .... oh got to go ... wife is coming..[click]
Well said...but perhaps Richards' post would have been better recieved without the word "dolt"
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stormbringer
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- S.W. Ontario
Did you actualy proof read what you wrote before you hit the "enter" button? REALLY??
Let me get this straight.......
Canadians doing IPSC WBs bidding...........they are fine folks.
Meanwhile.......
Canadians who agree with the USPSA positoin are sheep?
Best look in the mirror my good man...........you are covered in WOOL!
IPSC WB has done NOTHING but make up yet more and more rules to play what should arguably be an easy game.
Jeff Cooper would not even recongnize what we are doing now.
Please oh great 24 year veteran explain how the magazine rule change enhances SAFETY for christ sakes?
Or makes a level playing field? Really? So single stack 1911 users now have only 8 or 9 rounds instead of 11 like double stack shooters? How is that level? The average Joe who has a 1911 in their safe and thinks hey I might just try this IPSC thing can now forget it as their gun cannot be used competatively? LEVEL!
I would hazzard that after playing the game for 24 years I guess you forgot its roots as well as your own.
Intelligent stage design can make mag capacity differences less of a factor (or not a factor at all).
Though most members shoot for fun it would still be nice to have some kind of grace period for competitors to get their gear up to spec.
USPSA vs. IPSC - sooner or later there will be rules changes that people don't like. This is the nature of a living evolving sport. Personally I think it makes more sense for Canada to go with the International sport. Those that shoot in the USA are already prepared to modify equipment (mag plugs etc...) I don't really see this impacting them in the long run.
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I just had a bunch of work done on my dad's old single stack to shoot it in standard this year, I have some 10 round magazines, I figured at least capacity wise, I would be on an equal basis with everyone else. As far as I am concerned, in Canada we have a 10 round legal limit, and the length of the magazines is irrelevant. Make the gun fit in the box, no problem maybe say with a standard capacity magazine inserted, or whatever. The exemption was fine as it was I think. I was unaware that there was any issues in Canada that would deem a change to our existing exemptions. Leave Canada with your longer magazines, be prepared to do the box test at the international match you are attending. Federal laws rule, use what you have as long as it only holds 10 rounds of ammunition, I don't believe any changes or withdrawl of the exemption was necessary.
Here's a solution.
The gun+mag you have in your holster when you start has to fit in the box.
The mags you carry on your belt must also fit in the box. Note: this is the mag holder with the mags inserted that must fit in the box, paddle included.
Obviously single stack 1911 users must start with a 8 round mag (small dissadvantage to the double stack folk), but the mags they carry on their belt can be 10 rounders.
The gun+mag you have in your holster when you start has to fit in the box.
The mags you carry on your belt must also fit in the box. Note: this is the mag holder with the mags inserted that must fit in the box, paddle included.
Obviously single stack 1911 users must start with a 8 round mag (small dissadvantage to the double stack folk), but the mags they carry on their belt can be 10 rounders.
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Just shoot them off in USPSA matches, they allow all kinds of cool stuff!
Just imagine, matches where you can use long mags, put your gear where you want it AND get to shoot the old targets...I'll be shooting lots of US stuff this year!
Not to mention Singlestack class!
Just imagine, matches where you can use long mags, put your gear where you want it AND get to shoot the old targets...I'll be shooting lots of US stuff this year!
Not to mention Singlestack class!
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