Hello , I am very interested in getting back into reloading shells for ducks and geese . The last time I was reloading was before the ban of lead so....I realized alot has changed . I curious about Hevi shot , any good recipes and suppliers . I have , now don't laugh at me , a Lee load all . It worked fine for lead but what kit would be best to use Mec , RCBS or any other suggestions like number of shot 2,3,4,size of shot 1 7/8 , shell size 2 3/4" or 3" . Any help in this matter would be appreciated.
Reloading non-Tox for ducks
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There's also these guys, their shot is available up here for $80/Kg. http://www.niceshotinc.com/
Ben hunchak, if you know of anywhere where bismuth can be purchased at any price, I wish you would share.
Ben hunchak, if you know of anywhere where bismuth can be purchased at any price, I wish you would share.
Both P.R. and also B.P. sell it, I think for $165/7lbs U.S. plus shipping, there is a B.P. dealer in Alta....names Will Bilozar or some such, he'll hook you up, bring lots of pesos. I won't pay it so I use lead in my old hammerguns, and just hunt upland birds and rabbits, shoot skeet, etc. Use modern guns with steel for waterfowl.
# 1 Steel shot 10lbs enough for 150 rounds @1 1/8oz - $25
Special wads $11
Buffer $6
Primers$12
Powder $28
Shipping $23
Total for 150 rounds - 6 boxes of steel shot $105.
Works out to $17.50 a box. It gets cheaper if you do more, but not much.
Sorry guys, I married an accountant, she taught me how to do this.
Then because you don't seal them like the factory does they rust in humid climates.
Kent and Challenger go on sale for $10.99 a box!
Special wads $11
Buffer $6
Primers$12
Powder $28
Shipping $23
Total for 150 rounds - 6 boxes of steel shot $105.
Works out to $17.50 a box. It gets cheaper if you do more, but not much.
Sorry guys, I married an accountant, she taught me how to do this.
Then because you don't seal them like the factory does they rust in humid climates.
Kent and Challenger go on sale for $10.99 a box!
Well it would seem that reloading might not be the answer I was looking for . I hunt alot . I am out from first day ,Oct 1 in there Meritimes untill late Febuary for the sea ducks . I have chances for more then a few Geese .I shoot anywhere from 2 cases plus . I've tried the kent Fast steel , Can't say I'm a fan . I've been using Federal with a after market Choke with above average results . I've tried tungston good results but ,I thought if I started loading my own it might save me a few bucks but , it would appear I could be wrong ! I geuss I'll "bite the bullet "and stick with whats working now for me . I do have another question , does anyone know a good choke for a Remington 1187 . I just picked one up , I haven't had a chance to shoot this year due to the fact I'm deployed but , next year look out . Any thoughts ?
I also have been looking around , does anyone know anything about Ecotungston ? I can only assume it to will break the bank as well but , like I said I do alot of duck , goose hunting and if loading more helps save money I think I may be on to something . Maybe ............
Come on there must be someone who can point me in the right direction .I have checked out all of the ideas that were posted but somone must know . I realize that it will cost lots of $ to reload but , the way it looks right now it looks like I'm stuck with shooting steel and having average results with it .I gues I'll stick with what I've been using and pick up a few boxes of something else , like hevi shot ,bismuth or maybe even switch to black cloud .Any thoughts ?
it all depends
yes, the non-steel non-toxic loads are more expensive, but they are more effective. You seem to hunt more than I do (lucky bahstid) but 7 lbs of bismuth has lasted me three seasons so far and more to go. Two or three geese a year is plenty for me, and how many rounds does that take? Anyway, your choice, but for information go to w w w.ballisticproducts.com and start browsing. Order the load books that interest you and read up. Then you can decide for yourself what works for your type of hunting. I will say that hand-loading tungsten will be cheaper than buying it over the counter at the rate you say you shoot.
yes, the non-steel non-toxic loads are more expensive, but they are more effective. You seem to hunt more than I do (lucky bahstid) but 7 lbs of bismuth has lasted me three seasons so far and more to go. Two or three geese a year is plenty for me, and how many rounds does that take? Anyway, your choice, but for information go to w w w.ballisticproducts.com and start browsing. Order the load books that interest you and read up. Then you can decide for yourself what works for your type of hunting. I will say that hand-loading tungsten will be cheaper than buying it over the counter at the rate you say you shoot.
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Ballistics Products has a new one I just heard about yesterday. ITX shot, supposed to shoot about the same as bismuth, though it still looks to be too hard to go through any nice, old guns.
xttp://www.ballisticproducts.com/products.asp?dept=370
And, in case you're still looking, bismuth, as I hinted earlier, is essentially unavailable at any price.
xttp://www.ballisticproducts.com/products.asp?dept=370
And, in case you're still looking, bismuth, as I hinted earlier, is essentially unavailable at any price.
I'm not Ben, and I just discovered this thread looking for non-tox info. There is a gentleman on the Shotgunworld board making and selling bismuth shot:
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=73&t=158840
He believes that the only patents still in effect pertain to casting technologies for making the larger shot, which he is not using. It still ain't cheap.
Joel
