slugs for grizzly?
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Patrickshot
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What about a Sabot slug?
Hotwheels81
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they will probably dig deeper but the mass of a 1oz+ cast slug is hard to beat...
how quick on the draw are you? you sure you can get a slug in a good spot under stress?
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=uMbnmLLnsfw&feature=related
you wont always have time for a follow up shot.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=LZnsL7-UdGc&feature=related
Pietro Beretta
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Remington 12GA 3" Magnum 7/8 oz. RS at 1870 fps....that would be my choice.
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Levi Garrett
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with a scope and rifled choke or barrel it would be a sabbot slug , if a smooth bore short barreled job ,a foster hp is a good choice eh...these setups would also include the distance you would want the beast
Brutus
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Problem with MOST sabot slugs...is they are generally designed for the hunting of hoofed game....not dangerous game.
So although terrifically flat shooting (in a shotgun rifled barrel), often thier (sabot) penetration is not one would desire for big bears. Hence the big hard lead slugs generally a better idea for things that can harm you more easily.(Brenneke etc...)
I agreed because you can't mess with these animals and I've got flamed on another thread when I recommend to someone sheep hunting with the 375 H&H in bear country is over gunned
Those boys out in the west swear they never have any issue with grizzly where they hunt / live and work in the forest but hey not me I will take the largest caliber I have rather than get maw by the bear in case sh** happens!
Our local dealer brought a bunch in a few years ago and I cleaned him out! I have been after him to get more in but he hasn't restocked since.
I agreed because you can't mess with these animals and I've got flamed on another thread when I recommend to someone sheep hunting with the 375 H&H in bear country is over gunned
Those boys out in the west swear they never have any issue with grizzly where they hunt / live and work in the forest but hey not me I will take the largest caliber I have rather than get maw by the bear in case sh** happens!
A guy I worked with was out hunting and got mauled last year in BC. He had a .338 WM and killed the bastard but wound up in the hospital. He is a VERY tough guy but even he was lucky to have survived.
Sheep hunting is kinda strenuous and I have to admit that I'd leave my .375 H&H in the truck for something lighter, but when I'm hunting mulies or blackies alone I'll often lug my .375 H&H carbine. It's heavy but kind of comforting in the thick stuff.
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Patrickshot
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Hey guys, this is what I woke up to the next morning when we went on a boat trip near Vancouver Island to a secret spot.(middle of nowhere) We were there to surf. The prints were right beside our tent. After the trip I filled out my PAL papers and was looking at shotguns.......
Hotwheels81
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truth be told i know several people even my father and uncle who have spent an afternoon up a tree with a black bear nipping at there heel's... they would have settled for a .22 at the time....
i doubt i will ever face off with a grizz but black bears dont seem to have any issues in the central interior running folks up trees and snooping around your camp... head up by revelstoke and things change... either way i'm confident that 3" magnum buck with a couple slugs under it will deter my inevitable consumption by some ill mannerd beast...
Brenneke standard 2 3/4 by all means. Foster type for practice.
Here is why. Compare Brenneke design to the Foster type: notice how the Brenneke is a solid lead rod, with rifling cast on the outside, and how the wad is screwed to the flat base. This is a solid mass of lead, flat nose, with a sharp edge to the nose. Much better penetration. Notice how the Foster type is a lead "shell", relatively thin in any dimension, with a hollow base and a thin skirt. Much less solid mass that a Brenneke, and lower performance on big animals where you need penetration and bone breaking ability.
Foster type slugs remind me of the head of a badminton bird. Brennekes are reminescent of a freight train.
Fosters will do, but aren't the best of the slugs. Heavy shot still must be aimed;it doesn't spread appreciably at defense distances, and is still just 30 cal balls. Not very much penetration, even if there are a few in the load.
Here is why. Compare Brenneke design to the Foster type: notice how the Brenneke is a solid lead rod, with rifling cast on the outside, and how the wad is screwed to the flat base. This is a solid mass of lead, flat nose, with a sharp edge to the nose. Much better penetration. Notice how the Foster type is a lead "shell", relatively thin in any dimension, with a hollow base and a thin skirt. Much less solid mass that a Brenneke, and lower performance on big animals where you need penetration and bone breaking ability.
Foster type slugs remind me of the head of a badminton bird. Brennekes are reminescent of a freight train.
Fosters will do, but aren't the best of the slugs. Heavy shot still must be aimed;it doesn't spread appreciably at defense distances, and is still just 30 cal balls. Not very much penetration, even if there are a few in the load.
I disagree with this statement. I use 385 grin 2 3/4" sabot slugs for deer and at 150 yards Clean pass threws and thats even after going threw a 4" tree
Hotwheels81
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we shouldent hijack this thread with slug VS buck... there is no winner in that argument but your very correct anything you shoot needs to be well placed... i think tho people should be very aware when you face down anything intended to eat you the distance involved in every situation i have heard of are best described by the old English big game hunters... "it's not sporting unless you get dust on your boots when it hits the ground"... so no matter what you put down the pipe at under 15yrd's your talking 1oz+ of lead and enough energy to turn a bear skull/spine into jello... that being said certain slugs will go alot further then others such as solid VS hollow base when faced with a skull thats on a 45% angle from your muzzle or a thick chest cavity (even tho most folks would be lucky to even hit a bear the size of a fridge with a slug at 25yard's in a dead run towards you).
now if your planning on actually hunting a grizz with a rifled slugger and some sabbots then all the power to you... keep your shots under 150yrd's and make sure you can group around 3-5" at that distance under field conditions... if guys can take grizz with a compound bow i see no reason at all you cant drop a grizz with damn near anything from a 30-30 and up at a reasonable distance.
