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i have not cleaned it since i bought it about 6 months ago, too
The gun-gods will strike you down!
So it's a brand new Remington 870 Express - and it jams...
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The gun-gods will strike you down!
Yeah, but did you feed your 500 any Federal steel base shotshells, or are you just assuming it eats everything.
... but what do I know, I'm not a mafioso.
BTW... I thought the OP was talking about Remington Express models.I am laughing at all the "loose cheapo wally world specials ammo", blah blah blah.
My mossy 500 eats abso-f**king-lutely everything i give it with no problems whatsoever.
So maybe it is not the ammo that is the problem here
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i have not cleaned it since i bought it about 6 months ago, too
... but what do I know, I'm not a mafioso.
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bearkilr
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1.Check barrel for proof stampings.
2.Did the forend fall off?
3.Look for manufacturer name, usually on receiver. This gun must be made in China as Remingtons don't fail.
(this ought to be good)
2.Did the forend fall off?
3.Look for manufacturer name, usually on receiver. This gun must be made in China as Remingtons don't fail.
(this ought to be good)1.Check barrel for proof stampings.
2.Did the forend fall off?
3.Look for manufacturer name, usually on receiver. This gun must be made in China as Remingtons don't fail.
Hey, newbie ... Remington sells 500,000 shotguns a year. You'll need a bigger hornets nest.
... and you're not making any sense with your last post.
arcticcathonda
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Shouldn't have to give up a certain type of ammo just because it was the gun not extracting it correctly, I think others are right in saying it is a chamber issue. Fix that problem and then shoot whatever the hell you want! Cheap Walmart target load or the new pricey federal black cloud stuff!
blasted_saber
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Or maybe Remington should start shipping a quality product again?
Last time I checked, 870's didnt come advertised as "partially finished". My 20+ year old Wingmaster shoots every shell I put in it, regardless of the price of the shell. I go through flats of the cheapo federal shells every year.
bearkilr
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Newbie..........yeah, I have a life.
Just some friendly Sunday afternoon ribbing, considering the slander in the other topics. Relax.
No worries, It's all good from here.
Actually they are, just not in so many words. Remington makes it clear that their Express models are not as polished as their Wingmasters and use MIM parts instead of tool steel to keep costs down. Much like Birch instead of Wallnut for furniture. Because of the inexpensive qualities of these shotguns and the easy availability of factory parts, they probably sell more individual components to those who want to upgrade their Express.
Because of their great past history in making quality shotguns for 60 years, people are now considering that the Express models have considerable issues in the field. You do know they still make Wingmasters and Police Magnums with the same attention to detail and quality as years gone by. They just cost more.
Rough chambers aren't a QC issue at Remington, The quality is intentionally curtailed to bring you an economical product for less money.
Remington produces three grades of 870. The Express as an economy model, Wingmaster for the sporting crowd and the Police Magnum for defense.
If you don't know what to do with the Express when it needs a bit of polishing to save you a buck, buy a Wingmaster. Simple as that.
Having problems with cheapo Federal shells? Don't complain, you bought the lowest grade shotgun Remington makes and followed through with cheap-ass shells. Typical cheap consumer. We're telling you to compromise like Remington did, buy better shells and your Express will shoot as well as the other two.
Coming on here saying a Mossberg eats everything, well, so do the Police Magnums and Wingmasters if you compare apples to apples.
Seeing how people buy absolute garbage these days, Remington isn't out of line with the Expresses and it's still a better buy for your money than the Outlaws who's fore-end falls apart in your hand.
BTW, are you guys aware that you can buy a Chinese coach shotgun in the States for $120.
One more thing ... The kinds of people that do buy the Express models are likely to be the ones who'll ##### the most in the end expecting Remington to live up to their name. A "cheap" consumer should know how to live up to his name too.
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Wow, who pissed in your cornflakes easy? All we're saying is polish the chamber and the issues will more than likely go away. I'm glad you can afford the better quality stuff, but for some of us, in order to do any shooting in large volumes we need to spend a little less on ammo when we can. I use quality ammo when its warranted and the cheap stuff when it is warranted also.
Polish the chamber and more than likely the OP can get away with using the the cheap stuff when he feels like it to.
Polish the chamber and more than likely the OP can get away with using the the cheap stuff when he feels like it to.
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my 12.5 Grizz is doing the same thing. first day out, did this 3 times in 6 shells then I put it away. 2nd time out yesterday. did it once in about 20.
I was shooting some fiocchi 7.5 shot and winchester buck. I don't remember off hand which ones it jambed on, or if it did on both. I'll have to take alook at my chamber.
I've shot 100's of rounds of this fiocchi through my 1100 with no problems.
I was shooting some fiocchi 7.5 shot and winchester buck. I don't remember off hand which ones it jambed on, or if it did on both. I'll have to take alook at my chamber.
I've shot 100's of rounds of this fiocchi through my 1100 with no problems.
Wow, who pissed in you conflakes easy? All we're saying is polish the chamber and the issues will more than likely go away. I'm glad you can afford the better quality stuff, but for some of us, in order to do any shooting in large volumes we need to spend a little less on ammo when we can. I use quality ammo when its warranted and the cheap stuff when it is warranted also.
Polish the chamber and more than likely the OP can get away with using the the cheap stuff when he feels like it to.
No, I'm not pissed.
I'm just trying to "express" my points of view as I know Remington, seeing how so many think that a rough chamber is a quality issue when in fact it's a cost cutting business measure and of absolutely no comparison to the chinese manufacture of the Outlaw as many have argued. Sometimes you can't have it both ways. If you want to shoot more of the cheap ammo, that's fine, go out and buy a better gun that will be tuned to do so. Don't put the blame on Remington, they're giving you a choice, it's yours to make.
My apologies for that.
That certainly WAS out of character on my part. Hastily written with angst, I meant that as a figure of speech and not directed to anyone in particular. I'm easily excited about the things I'm passionate about. It won't happen again.
That certainly WAS out of character on my part. Hastily written with angst, I meant that as a figure of speech and not directed to anyone in particular. I'm easily excited about the things I'm passionate about. It won't happen again.
And I don't see it that way. I think guys who own an Express buy them to hunt hard. I've dragged mine through cattails and brush. I've got stuck in swampy mud and wen't in the water, the gun too. It's pushed brush looking for deer and rode for miles in a gun rack. It gets abused, and I have no excuse for how bad I really treat it. But the fact is it works. I wouldn't have the heart to do that to a Wingmaster, and I wouldn't put my AYA through that treatment. I say me, but I think I speak for thousands of others who appreciate it as a hunters gun, not a show piece your affraid to drag in the field. And anyone can say what they want about a 25 year old Wingmaster, I doubt anyone buying one today for $700 would treat it the way we treat our Express' models.
And I don't see it that way. I think guys who own an Express buy them to hunt hard. I've dragged mine through cattails and brush. I've got stuck in swampy mud and wen't in the water, the gun too. It's pushed brush looking for deer and rode for miles in a gun rack. It gets abused, and I have no excuse for how bad I really treat it. But the fact is it works. I wouldn't have the heart to do that to a Wingmaster, and I wouldn't put my AYA through that treatment. I say me, but I think I speak for thousands of others who appreciate it as a hunters gun, not a show piece your affraid to drag in the field. And anyone can say what they want about a 25 year old Wingmaster, I doubt anyone buying one today for $700 would treat it the way we treat our Express' models.
Hate to tell you that you are wrong, but you are wrong.
I bought my Wingmaster in 1980 and I've gragged it every which way, and it's now my combat shotgun, and I built that in 1982.
So would you buy a new Wingmaster for that kind of money Today to do that, or would you buy an Express instead? Bare in mind in 1980 the Express never existed.
