- Location
- Kawartha Lakes, Ontario
Coyotes with pups
- Thread starter asphalt599
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my buddy shot a coyote during turkey season last spring and it was a female that was milking. SHe probably just had her pups a few weeks before. I dont shoot em anymore unless they get REAL close and I have the bow in hand.
As teenagers in the '60s, my neighbors and I got four of them (two apiece) out of a dead beaver house one spring, and left four for the mother. We had been watching her, and saw she was ready to whelp; the pups were a day old when we got them. We raised all four successfully, and they hung around for a couple of years before some 'hunter' shot them right in our driveway. F&W came around, concerned that we had 'captured' wildlife - when they saw that the coyotes were loose in the yard and free to go whenever they wanted, they shrugged and left us alone.
We had a male and a female; the female remained completely tame, but the male reverted to the wild when he matured. He never left, and came when he was called, but he wouldn't quite let you touch him. The female was tame to the point of being a very mischevious pest, coaxing you into chasing her, and refusing to get out of the pickup unless you took her for a ride. Another of her favorite games was to run at you full speed, and then leap at you - you were expected to catch her in mid air, so she could lick you half to death. We were used to her self taught trick, but it scared the hell out of strangers! She loved to learn tricks, and seemed to delight in showing off how smart she was.
They're a damn sight smarter (and cleaner) than any dog, I can vouch for that....but they are hell on chickens.
I can't go along with the 'vermin' idea, unless somebody can demonstrate that they're actually doing harm by killing livestock. In the wild, they go through about 20-25 mice a day each, and I'd way rather have coyotes around the place than mice. I could never shoot another coyote either, unless it was killing my livestock.
Unfortunately, some trigger happy people think that indiscriminately killing anything that moves makes them a 'hunter'.
- Location
- Burke Mountain & Pavilion Lake, B.C.
Well spoken Tumbleweed.
I hunt and I fish, but I never deliberately cause an animal more pain than what is needed to kill it when I need it dead,
Hunting and fishing carrys a self-imposed code of conduct.
KTK
I hunt and I fish, but I never deliberately cause an animal more pain than what is needed to kill it when I need it dead,
Hunting and fishing carrys a self-imposed code of conduct.
KTK
I got to thinking about the kid that we talked into crawling into that beaver house...I suppose it's a pretty good thing the mother wasn't home! We had those pups nine days before their eyes opened.
I believe it must have been early/mid May, because we were combining some wheat that had snowed under and was left out over winter. The old mother coyote was hunting mice between the combines for a couple of days, as they often do, so we noticed when her belly disappeared and her teats were engorged. This was north of Peace River, so they'd probably have their pups later than in southern Alberta.
I believe it must have been early/mid May, because we were combining some wheat that had snowed under and was left out over winter. The old mother coyote was hunting mice between the combines for a couple of days, as they often do, so we noticed when her belly disappeared and her teats were engorged. This was north of Peace River, so they'd probably have their pups later than in southern Alberta.
- Location
- Kawartha Lakes, Ontario
A moving story. I personally cannot bring myself to shoot coyotes around here, because I know of no harm done. Some people may have issues with newborn livestock, that's different.
I hunt, but not just to kill something.
Hotwheels81
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- Location
- South of GP
and fawn's and calves and snowshoe hare etc etc...
dont get me wrong here, i have passed up shots on yotes in the wild but if they are lurking around on range land or around the hunting camp any yote i see is a dead yote... extermination is not the goal and evoloution teaches us its all but impossible to kill off the yote population anyway but letting the population explode in a rural area creates a bad situation for all involved... i have seen yotes chase deer towards a hiway in hope of an easy meal on several occasions... they are very VERY smart animals.
If you kill the parents of the offspring, the pups will be consumed by other coyotes and other wild creatures, and setting up another fight for dominance in the Coyote community in your area for breeding rights. Within a year another ##### will be giving birth, perhaps to a more wiley generation. Some of my friends say if you shoot one dominant Coyote, three will come to his funeral, julst like Cockroaches.
God bless Darwin.
God bless Darwin.
Are you guys this concerned about gophers having little ones in the holes when you shoot them?
frig some of you guys have a touch of bambi syndrome when it comes to yotes eh!...Its open season all year here in Ontario you nail a female with pups call it killing multiple yotes with one bullet sounds good to me!.
frig some of you guys have a touch of bambi syndrome when it comes to yotes eh!...Its open season all year here in Ontario you nail a female with pups call it killing multiple yotes with one bullet sounds good to me!.
And for every one of those there are 5 others smashed on the asphalt.
I've seen coyote that were being chased, still stop and look both ways before crossing the highway.
Small comfort for them when they are in my sights, cause in a few seconds when safely crossed, (but in a safe line of fire), they were usually shot dead.
Don't mean to pee on anyone's coyote LOVE IN here, but they have caused a lot of problems on small game and deer around here.
The only good coyote is a dead one, and if that includes pups, so be it.
Because coyotes help control vermin...
You have to think a step or two ahead when talking about ecology. The web doesn't have only one strand.... And that type of thinking does a disservice to hunters who are real conservationists. You are saying "just shoot them all" without any foresight....
don't know why people are trying to change the topic to whether or not you should hunt yotes with pups... asphalt599 simply asked when they have their pups and said "Don't really want to shoot one with a den full of pups."
if you have an answer to his question, that's great... if not don't try to convince him to hunt yotes with pups, as this wasn't the topic...
some people have their own ethics and one should just respect that...
if you have an answer to his question, that's great... if not don't try to convince him to hunt yotes with pups, as this wasn't the topic...
some people have their own ethics and one should just respect that...
Ok, don't shoot any yotes between February and October if you feel you might endanger pup survival. If you WANT to reduce the population, then this is when you should focus your efforts. Killing a pregnant or lactating female is like getting 4-10 yotes for the price of one bullet.
We chase yotes with hounds and I swear the coyotes always go for the busiest roads. I've seen them cross a busy paved road, they would be looking both ways when they are about 20 yards from the road. hounds would be right on their ass and they would still look both ways, they would cross the road, then we'd try to stop the hounds before they gets across aswell ( not an easy task). That coyote that day crossed that same road 3 differnet times, I swear it was trying to get the hounds smucked on the highway.
Although I've seen 4 dead coyotes on the road since last fall. Some are extremely smart, others not so much....
Although I've seen 4 dead coyotes on the road since last fall. Some are extremely smart, others not so much....
tisk tisk tisk, sounds like some of you are getting a little 2 trigger happy.
Kind like the post earler with hunting ethics. Killing a female with pups in her is not 3 in one shot its a slaughter. Attitudes like that do not help the hunting community one little bit.
I hunt coyote as well for the challenge because they are a pretty smart dog. They read each other well and if one sees you usually they all get the hint and go other directions as well.
You should always Earn your kill. make it near personal with a individual animal rather than killing every one u see.
gophers excluded.
Kind like the post earler with hunting ethics. Killing a female with pups in her is not 3 in one shot its a slaughter. Attitudes like that do not help the hunting community one little bit.
I hunt coyote as well for the challenge because they are a pretty smart dog. They read each other well and if one sees you usually they all get the hint and go other directions as well.
You should always Earn your kill. make it near personal with a individual animal rather than killing every one u see.
gophers excluded.
