Question on Registering an Enfield

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I am inheriting a bubba'd Enfield from my ex father in law and have a question on registering it. It has been 7 years since I last dealt with the CFC for registration so I am fuzzy about the details... I got him to email me the details on it, but there is no model number visible. Do I need a model number or is make, serial #, barrel length and calibre all I need for that?

Thanks,
Mark
 
mmattockx said:
I am inheriting a bubba'd Enfield from my ex father in law and have a question on registering it. It has been 7 years since I last dealt with the CFC for registration so I am fuzzy about the details... I got him to email me the details on it, but there is no model number visible. Do I need a model number or is make, serial #, barrel length and calibre all I need for that?

Thanks,
Mark
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Post a pic or two (not showing the s/n) and we'll tell you what model it is.
 
cantom said:
Post a pic or two (not showing the s/n) and we'll tell you what model it is.
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It is sitting in the ex FIL's house, about a 3 hour drive away or I would. I am going to try and register it without the model and see if it goes. I have a beater Mauser 98 that has no model number anywhere on it and that got registered fine, so hopefully the Enfield will make it as well. Once I have it, I will post some pics so I know what I have.

Thanks,
Mark
 
Chances are it's a No1 Mk3, or potentially a No4. But typically the CFC wil require info about the model and tne s/n; sure makes things quicker and easier. I recently registered two Enfields and good thing I knew the details about the rifles otherwise the person I was talking to at the CFC would have been lost.

Lou
 
And even if you do have the model number, they'll probably disagree with you, and register it as something else anyway.... But THAT's another story!!
 
louthepou said:
Chances are it's a No1 Mk3, or potentially a No4. But typically the CFC wil require info about the model and tne s/n; sure makes things quicker and easier. I recently registered two Enfields and good thing I knew the details about the rifles otherwise the person I was talking to at the CFC would have been lost.

Lou
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Hmmm, that doesn't sound promising. I do have eveything but a model number, maybe I will bring them home, then register them after I sort out the finer points.

Thanks,
Mark
 
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Just bumping this with some more info. I had a chance to have a look at the rifle in question. It is a No.4 Mk.I, the full marking is:

No.4 Mk. I (F) FTR
/49 PB26###

The barrel measures 23" from the front of the receiver ring and the stock has been cut down. Pics to follow tomorrow after I get to downloading them. Anything particularly unusual or outstanding from those numbers?

On a side note, I have a couple of Mauser 98's and this is the first time I have ever handled an Enfield. What a slick, easy action to operate. I can see why it was the superior battlefield weapon. If I had to go to battle, I would take the Enfield in a second over my 98's. For a custom game rifle, the 98 wins hands down, but there is no question that the Enfield would be far superior as a combat tool. I can now see the attraction some of you have for this design. Maybe this one will make me a convert, too.:D

I will have to go buy a box or two of commercial ammo to test drive it, any recommendations on brand, bullet weight/type, etc.?

Thanks,
Mark
 
mmattockx said:
Just bumping this with some more info. I had a chance to have a look at the rifle in question. It is a No.4 Mk.I, the full marking is:

No.4 Mk. I (F) FTR
/49 PB26###

The barrel measures 23" from the front of the receiver ring and the stock has been cut down. Pics to follow tomorrow after I get to downloading them. Anything particularly unusual or outstanding from those numbers?

On a side note, I have a couple of Mauser 98's and this is the first time I have ever handled an Enfield. What a slick, easy action to operate. I can see why it was the superior battlefield weapon. If I had to go to battle, I would take the Enfield in a second over my 98's. For a custom game rifle, the 98 wins hands down, but there is no question that the Enfield would be far superior as a combat tool. I can now see the attraction some of you have for this design. Maybe this one will make me a convert, too.:D

I will have to go buy a box or two of commercial ammo to test drive it, any recommendations on brand, bullet weight/type, etc.?

Thanks,
Mark
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The CFC tells us how to measure barrel length...use a cleaning rod, insert till it hits the closed bolt face, mark the spot where it comes out, pull it out, tape measure it.
Lee Enfield, No 4 Mk I, .303, 10 shots, barrel length, serial number.
 
mmattockx said:
I will have to go buy a box or two of commercial ammo to test drive it, any recommendations on brand, bullet weight/type, etc.?

Thanks,
Mark
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Anything that's in stock!

Jokes aside, you may not have the luxury of choosing, often a small selection is the best you can hope for... in my area anyways.

Lou
 
nelly said:
And even if you do have the model number, they'll probably disagree with you, and register it as something else anyway.... But THAT's another story!!
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They registered my WZ-48 as a Mosin-Nagant even though it's in .22 calibre and has a Mauser action.
 
nelly said:
And even if you do have the model number, they'll probably disagree with you, and register it as something else anyway.... But THAT's another story!!
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Yup
Had that happen with a Mklll* , but I told the "kind" lady I'll call back.
I got a different person and it all went through like a breeze.
 
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Here are a few pics of the rifle in question. Any info would be appreciated. If I wanted to un-bubba this, where would I go for a stock set? As can be seen, the stock has a repair on it and is in need of some refinishing. Is that model description typical for a No.4 Mk.I? There is a 'BMP' under a crown on the side of the receiver ring, what does that indicate, if anything? I assume the '/49' indicates 1949 as a year of manufacture?

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Thanks,
Mark
 
She is a No.4 Mk1 that was FTR (factory thorough repair/refurb) at the Fazakerley factory. She was rebuilt in 1949 by the looks of it. It looks like a surplus rifle which was sportered for commercial sale, most likely by Parker hale. The barrel has been chopped, but the original sight is still there so a restoration is still possible, although it will look a little funny with the stubby nose, but it will defiantly look better then a sporter. Stock sets show up on the EE every once in a blue moon, But there is a person on Ebay who has a whole crate of them and is selling them.

If anyone sees anything wrong with the info, please correct me. I like to learn and do not want to give this gentleman the wrong info.
 
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Since the barrel is cut and it's a Brit rifle, it really isn't worth spending the money on un Bubbaing. Barrels are few and far between. Rifles like that are worth about $100-$120. Enjoy it as is, it's a perfectly good hunting rifle.
 
LeeEnfieldNo.4_mk1 said:
She is a No.4 Mk1 that was FTR (factory through repair/refurb) at the Fazakerley factory. She was rebuilt in 1949 by the looks of it. It looks like a surplus rifle which was sportered for commercial sale, most likely by Parker hale. The barrel has been chopped, but the original sight is still there so a restoration is still possible, although it will look a little funny with the stubby nose, but it will defiantly look better then a sporter. Stock sets show up on the EE every once in a blue moon, But there is a person on Ebay who has a whole crate of them and is selling them.
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Thank you, sir. My ex-FIL used it as a hunting tool and knew nothing of the details beyond caliber and the fact that it is an Enfield.

cantom said:
Since the barrel is cut and it's a Brit rifle, it really isn't worth spending the money on un Bubbaing. Barrels are few and far between. Rifles like that are worth about $100-$120. Enjoy it as is, it's a perfectly good hunting rifle.
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I will definitely take it out and see what it can do. Since it is worth very little, it will be a good refinishing project to practice on. As I mentioned before, it sure is a slick action and the sights are excellent, too.

Mark
 
I think you will have to take it to a verifier and they will give you the # that you need. Just go to the CFC online and you can find a verifier in your area. Good Luck Jack
 
got to go said:
I think you will have to take it to a verifier and they will give you the # that you need. Just go to the CFC online and you can find a verifier in your area. Good Luck Jack
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You can verify it right over the phone. All you need to do is tell them the make, model, serial number and barrel length. Then they will give you the info you need (verifier's number, name and FRT number), then you can fill out a form online at the CFC website and submit it. Print off the results page and it should have the new certificate number, unless it gets sent for review then it will take slightly longer.
 
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Looks not too bad, shame about the last 1 1/2 inchs of barrel being cut off. The butt is very salvageable, and it has a lot of good parts, mircrometer rear sights are not exactly cheap anymore

What is that mark on the top of the barrel knox ?
 
got to go said:
I think you will have to take it to a verifier and they will give you the # that you need. Just go to the CFC online and you can find a verifier in your area. Good Luck Jack
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Why would I need any verification? I have a make, model, serial number, mag capacity, barrel length and caliber. What else would they want?

Mark
 
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