CZ75B vs SP-01 Shadow

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I am contemplating buying one of these guns and am wondering if the shadow is really that much better, kinda like the lighter weight of the 75b, and the $250 cheaper price tag. Is accuracy comparable?
 
If you're looking for an apples to apples comparison you should probably be looking at the standard SP-01 rather than the SP-01 Shadow. Their website does a good job of describing the difference, including the benefits of the full dust cover on the SP-01.
 
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My first gun was a CZ85B Combat....it's the 75 with ambi-controls, and adjustabe sights.
I bought one of the first SP-01's...shot it side by side with the 85B...and sold the SP-01.
Apart from the extra weight up front....no advantage.
For general 'range' purposes, the Shadow would be my choice....lighter trigger, fibre-optic front sight...plus the extra 'heft'...
From my POV, the SP-01 offered no added 'intrinsic' accuracy, and if you prefer the lighter weight of the 75B...buy it.......'and save your money'!
Spend the extra on ammo...you're going to need it!
 
manley1111 said:
I am contemplating buying one of these guns and am wondering if the shadow is really that much better, kinda like the lighter weight of the 75b, and the $250 cheaper price tag. Is accuracy comparable?
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The Shadow has a factory trigger job and fiber-optic sights (which I personally don't like it). As far as inherent accuracy, there should be no difference. If you prefer lighter weight, with with the 75b.
 
Lately I found a lot of SP01 on sale at EE, I might think people didn't really like it for some reasons, but on the other hand the Shadow is everyone's belove. Either pick the 75B or the Shadow. If you plan to do some competition, take the Shadow, if not 75B is a great gun as I have one as well.

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Shadow would be a better shooter between the two.

Also, I would need to correct one of the posters - CZ 85 Combat is NOT the same as CZ 85B; the "B" version has Firing Pin Block (B = block) while Combat doen't, giving it a better (crisper) trigger.

Shadow, as opposed to other SP-01s doesn't have FPB either, lighter main and recoil springs, crisp (no creep) trigger, better sights.
Even the frame is cut slightly differently.

You may have to double-check IDPA rules as in the past the guns with full dust cover were not allowed (e.g. SP-01); if it applies to you. IPSC is fine with the Shadow (not to confuse with the 'Custom Shop').
 
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I have a CZ 75B and my father has a Shadow, I shoot both and I love my 75 ,but the Shadow has a trigger so nice :D

sure the Shadow is more expensive but I think it's the best choice

In my situation, I'm still a student and money is sometimes a big argument for purchase of a new toy :p

Then it's why I buy a 75B, it's a very good compromise ;)
 
Well, FPB can be removed, and with trigger job, 75/85B can have as good of the trigger :D I'd NOT suggest doing it yourself thou as you need particular knowledge and experience to do it on the gun.
 
From my experience,

my CZ 75 Kadet has a better trigger than my CZ 75B because there is no firing pin safety

my Kadet has a trigger almost like the Shadow
 
Does anyone know how the Shadow trigger compares to the trigger on a Sig P210? I ask because I've only ever fired 2 9mm's: I have a Ruger P85 whose trigger is long, gritty, and heavy, and that's after a trigger job!, and the Sig P210 has a great trigger, at least by comparison.
Anyone know what the trigger pull on the Shadow is in pounds?
My weekend's shooting with the P85 has convinced me I need a target 9mm. I may one day try the IPSC/IDPA thing, too.
 
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Shadow would be a better shooter between the two.

Also, I would need to correct one of the posters - CZ 85 Combat is NOT the same as CZ 85B; the "B" version has Firing Pin Block (B = block) while Combat doen't, giving it a better (crisper) trigger.

Shadow, as opposed to other SP-01s doesn't have FPB either, lighter main and recoil springs, crisp (no creep) trigger, better sights.
Even the frame is cut slightly differently.

You may have to double-check IDPA rules as in the past the guns with full dust cover were not allowed (e.g. SP-01); if it applies to you. IPSC is fine with the Shadow (not to confuse with the 'Custom Shop').
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Hi

Not quite. In order for the Shadow to compete in IPDA the gun must weigh in at 39oz or less as it must meet SSP Division rules in order to play. (It has a full length dustcover). It can be made to make weight by changing grips and a few parts but out of the box it is to heavy.

Take Care

Bob
 
p210sig, and Contondant, thanks- that's good to know. And if I could afford a P210, believe me, I'd get one, but from all I've read so far, the Shadow is a great target pistol and won't break the bank, either.
Might bend it a little, though... :D
 
I ended up with a Shadow and it's still one of my favourite guns be it in my own collection or of all the others I've tried.

I've also shot a buddy's trigger jobbed Shadow and it was SUPERB ! ! ! ! This applied to both double action as well as single. I really need to order the spring kit and do my own smoothing to match his setup.

Handling and dry firing a 75B in a store it didn't seem that bad for a new gun. Typically new guns are a bit more stiff until the action polishes itself in from use. It was good enough that I'm thinking of getting one as a backup that shares magazines with the Shadow and because it would be light enough to use in the occasional IDPA event.

Fiber front sights are obviously a love it or hate it sort of deal. For myself it's an emphatic LOVE deal. So be sure to find and handle a gun with one and see if it makes sense for you before you leap in credit card first.
 
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Fiber front sights are obviously a love it or hate it sort of deal. For myself it's an emphatic LOVE deal. So be sure to find and handle a gun with one and see if it makes sense for you before you leap in credit card first.
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I'll be dealing with Armco (Gunnar) for this, and will have a chance to dry fire it and handle it before I buy. I'm curious though, your buddy had a trigger job done- you mentioned a spring; was the trigger pull lightened even further from the approx 2lbs stock? Or was the job mostly just to smooth the feel? I had the impression the triggers on these were pretty darn good to start with.
 
I bought my Shadow from Gunnar. I replaced the mainspring with a 13# CZ spring and I now have a 5.5# trigger pull. Very smooth! You might also want to go to a lighter recoil spring if you are shooting IDPA/IPSC with light loads. The stock recoil spring is pretty heavy for the lighter loads. I think doing a trigger job ( Takes you out of Production) on a Shadow is like polishing a diamond. Gun comes with a pretty smooth trigger.

Take Care

Bob
 
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