Clearly you haven't been paying attention, QC in most modern rifles sucks hard these days.
"Quality" and accuracy aren't necessarily the same thing.
POLL: How many practice with open sights (just in case)
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"Quality" and accuracy aren't necessarily the same thing.
Learnt how to shoot with iron sights unfortunately my eyes don't allow precision shooting with irons anymore.
I even started increasing the power of all of my scopes then I found XS ghost ring sights were I only need to focus on the front sight I am now able to do what I used to do.
Mind you the $500.00 specialty contact in my right eye has also helped a lot...
I even started increasing the power of all of my scopes then I found XS ghost ring sights were I only need to focus on the front sight I am now able to do what I used to do.
Mind you the $500.00 specialty contact in my right eye has also helped a lot...
Pivot Mounts
Weaver made a nifty little rig called the pivot mount and matching rings. It allowed you to pivot your scope to the side with a flick of the wrist. Thus allowing fast access to your irons. They can be found here and there. If you hunt, they are worth looking for.
I love banging the gong at 300 with my old M91 Mosins and surplus ammo Pisses off the the high dollar scoped crowd like nothing else
Weaver made a nifty little rig called the pivot mount and matching rings. It allowed you to pivot your scope to the side with a flick of the wrist. Thus allowing fast access to your irons. They can be found here and there. If you hunt, they are worth looking for.
I love banging the gong at 300 with my old M91 Mosins and surplus ammo
Pisses off the the high dollar scoped crowd like nothing else
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- WMU248 near Edmonton
I shoot both scopes and irons. Why limit yourself
I hunt with a primitive black powder .54 cal...and i just started to walk upright. ..and i hunt in B.C's Coastal Mountains, where the bush is so thick a scoped rifle is pretty well worthless. In my earlier years i when on a bear hunt with a tactical rifle (Styer SSG) with a fixed 10 power mil dot scope. I had a angry bear charged at me through dense bush starting at about 25 metres. I tried to put the cross hairs on him, but all i could see was a blur, i raised my head and quickly shot over the scope. (So much for my 5 grand set up.) I nailed him between the eyes and it dies instantly at my feet. After that started using iron sights only. Now, i gone to black powder and dress like Jeremiah Johnson, but now i strap a claymore mine to my chest in case of another charge.
I had to ask, because I see more and more people these days at the range who only own guns with scopes. I have let them shoot my levers and such and the first thing most of them say is " I can't hit the broad side of a barn with them old open sights. Thats why I have scopes in the first place!"
It just made me think about what would happen to them on a hunt if their scope failed or took a knock. I grew up using rimfires, shotguns, and levers, so I never gave it much thought until recently. There's a difference between knowing how they work to actually hitting an animal in the vitals at 125 yards using open sights. I've seen people not be able to hit a 2 foot target at 100 yards with open sights.
Myself and my friends I guess would be considered the next generation of hunters/shooters and I can tell you because of the lack of factory installed iron sights on bolts and decline in lever popularity, most of my friends cannot shoot with iron sights.
Maybe, but even the cheap rifles are good shooters these days. Best examples that come to mind are the T3 and Stevens 200s.Clearly you haven't been paying attention, QC in most modern rifles sucks hard these days.
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I just bought a set of NECG sights for my 375 Chatfield-Taylor and a set of Warne QDs for the scope. These are nice sights, but definitely NOT cheap. Most the factory sights offered now are kinda crappy, but with a few bucks this can be rectified. The Remington sight isn't that bad if you file the rear sight to a wide V instead of that notch. I did a slug bbl like this and it was greatly improved. The recever sight is a great alternative to the std bbl sight system.
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SuperCub, did you open the aperture on the NECG sight? I opened mine removing the recessed disk and the resulting ghost ring is now not only precise, it is also pretty quick. It has become the primary sight on my ZG-47.
I thought that too, but just as there are a generation of people who will never unfold and orient a paper map (due to GPS/googlemap type technology) or even drive a manual transmission vehicle, there exists a generation of hunters/shooters who will never fire a shot with notch and post iron sights.
The NECG sights I got was the std bbl sight and banded front.
My experience with reciever sights would include the Lyman and Williams type. I'm looking for a Lyman or Redfield reciever sight for a Model 94. It's a big improvement over the factory bbl sight. I've often wondered why folks don't use them on DGRs more often. I'd think a 21" M98 in 458 with a Lyman all steel rec sight would be a VG set-up for those who need it.
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Installing a fiber optic tru-glo front sight helped immensely in using open sights-I like a ghost ring peep sight for typical close range deer hunting but was having trouble focussing and had given up on open sights until I tried the fiber optic sight. Try it-it might work for you
Well, my trap and other shotguns do not have scopes because that would seem weird and probably outside PITA rules.
My handguns have no scopes; to do that would almost double their size, and for what, they're basically for use inside 50 yards.
And to scope my good milsurps would be sacrilege. Then there are the SKS's. I got one with some sort of red dot sight installed, but it shoots no better than the others. Now my hunting rifles do have scopes with iron backup and my 1000 yard stuff, scoped for sure.
My handguns have no scopes; to do that would almost double their size, and for what, they're basically for use inside 50 yards.
And to scope my good milsurps would be sacrilege. Then there are the SKS's. I got one with some sort of red dot sight installed, but it shoots no better than the others. Now my hunting rifles do have scopes with iron backup and my 1000 yard stuff, scoped for sure.
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- BC's Peace Country
I use open sights on my lever rifles, Stag 15 AR, handguns, Stevens .22 single shot and my 870 Tactical. The other shotguns have a bead and the other rifles wear glass.
"Quality" and accuracy aren't necessarily the same thing.
Well I'll give you that.
I wouldn't put both T3 and Stevens 200 in the same cheap category.
Also define "cheap"...
