7mm vs 280
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7mm does not designate any specific cartridge.The 280 was for a time sold as the 7mm express.
If you are referring to the 7mmremmag,why would anyone buy a 7mmremmag when they could have a 7mmstw?
Why would anyone buy a 7mmstw when they could have a 7mmRUM?
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280 , accuracy of the 7 mm bullet in a fair size case.
Wanna jump to 7 mil mag , and its a sweet long range game getter.
or drop it down to 7-08 , or mauser for a super carry all day brush , and field gun.
Wanna jump to 7 mil mag , and its a sweet long range game getter.
or drop it down to 7-08 , or mauser for a super carry all day brush , and field gun.
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Posted 15 April 2004 06:08 Hide Post
I've got all three of the calibers mentioned above and have killed alot of animals with them.I've yet to see the differance in killing power. The .270 with 150gr bullets and the 06 with 180gr bullets will do anything the 7mag can and do it cheaper and with less recoil.
The 7mmrem mag has to be one of the most overrated magnums out there. Its the magnum for guys who can't shoot a real magnum. Most people that brag on the 7mag,use 140 or 150 grain bullets and yet the same weight in .270 just bounces off animals.
You'll hear about the 7mm mag being light in recoil,which it is. The reason being most loads in the 7mag are only 3 to 4 grains more then the 270 and 06. Which also lends it to the old saying "I liked my 7mag,until I bought a chronograph".
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I can see this vs that type threads when the snow is fart hole deep, but this time of year???
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I've got all three of the calibers mentioned above and have killed alot of animals with them.I've yet to see the differance in killing power. The .270 with 150gr bullets and the 06 with 180gr bullets will do anything the 7mag can and do it cheaper and with less recoil.
The 7mmrem mag has to be one of the most overrated magnums out there. Its the magnum for guys who can't shoot a real magnum. Most people that brag on the 7mag,use 140 or 150 grain bullets and yet the same weight in .270 just bounces off animals.
You'll hear about the 7mm mag being light in recoil,which it is. The reason being most loads in the 7mag are only 3 to 4 grains more then the 270 and 06. Which also lends it to the old saying "I liked my 7mag,until I bought a chronograph".
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I can see this vs that type threads when the snow is fart hole deep, but this time of year???
The potential of the 7MM RM is only realized through handloading.I have tried many many loads with my 7mm RM .As soon as I would push the pressure levels the accuracy went to pot and the speed was very dissappointing. However I finally tried RL 22.It really shines with RL22 powder.It is easy to put a 140 grain out at over 3300 fps with superb accuracy. It will also put a 150 out at over 3200 with superb accuracy. The 7mm rm and RL22 is a match made in heaven. I haven't personally seen a 7mm which doesn't like it.
I do like my 7mm wby
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If you guys all wanna jerk it to your chrony readings go and buy a 7RUM...
This ballistic masterbation-fest is getting insane.
This ballistic masterbation-fest is getting insane.
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If you're going magnum and if you practice enough and toughen up why not get a 8mm rem mag. or a .338 Lapua , I mean why not make bigger holes for more blood to come out, you are trying to kill it right? stop wimpering about recoil, practice makes perfect . . .
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You're right, the 7x57 is the better choice.
In 47 yrs of hunting I've never owned a magnum and never will. I like to shoot my hunting rifles and prefer not to deal with all of the sound and fury(and costs) associated with the magnum ctgs. I've shot game with all of the following conventional or "pussy" rounds over the years and never saw a need for anything more; .25-06,7x57 mauser,270 Win,.280 Rem,.30-30 Win,.308 Win,.30-06,.303 Brit,.348Win,and .50 cal ML. I've also seen a lot of animals that were badly shot up with a lot of meat ruined by others using magnum ctgs that they were not able to shoot well. Proper bullet placement at a reasonable range is everything.
7mm Rem mag
With todays bullets with high BC like Bergers and some of the newer powders like RL 17 the big bullets just sail right passed the small 140gr & 130gr way more energy and just as flat or better than the smaller bullets. over 500 ftlbs energy from 400 to 1000 than the small bullets. and buck the wind twice as good.
Don't get rid of your 7mm rem mag there are hard to beat.
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Muzzle -1.5 Infinity 3000 3597 77.14 0.000 0.0 NaN 1312
100 3.4 -13 2856 3260 73.44 0.103 0.4 2 1132
200 4.1 -8 2717 2950 69.86 0.210 1.8 3 975
300 0.0 0 2582 2664 66.39 0.324 4.1 5 837
400 -9.3 9 2451 2402 63.04 0.443 7.5 7 716
500 -24.4 19 2325 2161 59.79 0.569 12.1 9 611
600 -45.9 29 2203 1939 56.64 0.701 17.8 11 520
700 -74.5 41 2084 1735 53.58 0.841 24.8 14 440
800 -111.2 53 1968 1548 50.61 0.989 33.3 16 370
900 -156.9 67 1857 1378 47.74 1.146 43.4 18 311
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With todays bullets with high BC like Bergers and some of the newer powders like RL 17 the big bullets just sail right passed the small 140gr & 130gr way more energy and just as flat or better than the smaller bullets. over 500 ftlbs energy from 400 to 1000 than the small bullets. and buck the wind twice as good.
Don't get rid of your 7mm rem mag there are hard to beat.
Home The Land The Quarry The Skills The Tools The Links
Advanced Ballistics Calculator - for those that want to play serious what-ifs. Diameter Wind Speed Altitude Clicks/MOA Sight Height Max Range Range Interval Sectional Density Muzzle Velocity Bullet Weight Ballistic Coefficient Temperature Zero Range Ballistics Calculator Max Point blank range is 305 yds when zeroed at 258 yds.
Range
yds Path
in ComeUp
clicks Velocity
fps Energy
ft/lbs Momentum
lb ft/s ToF
sec Windage
in Windage
clicks Optimal
Game Wgt
Muzzle -1.5 Infinity 3000 3597 77.14 0.000 0.0 NaN 1312
100 3.4 -13 2856 3260 73.44 0.103 0.4 2 1132
200 4.1 -8 2717 2950 69.86 0.210 1.8 3 975
300 0.0 0 2582 2664 66.39 0.324 4.1 5 837
400 -9.3 9 2451 2402 63.04 0.443 7.5 7 716
500 -24.4 19 2325 2161 59.79 0.569 12.1 9 611
600 -45.9 29 2203 1939 56.64 0.701 17.8 11 520
700 -74.5 41 2084 1735 53.58 0.841 24.8 14 440
800 -111.2 53 1968 1548 50.61 0.989 33.3 16 370
900 -156.9 67 1857 1378 47.74 1.146 43.4 18 311
1000 -212.7 81 1750 1224 44.99 1.313 55.1 21 260
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You're apparently not the master that archie is!
Well I figure you fruit cakes are gonna bicker...so we might as well stoke up the fire.
