Run-in with a coyote hunter

Arctic Blaser, it has nothing to do with 'gun rights'. Illegal activity by any hunter, especially one asking permission to hunt, hurts all hunters. Rectal orifi like this guy make finding a place to hunt more difficult.
 
sunray said:
Arctic Blaser, it has nothing to do with 'gun rights'. Illegal activity by any hunter, especially one asking permission to hunt, hurts all hunters. Rectal orifi like this guy make finding a place to hunt more difficult.
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I agree!!!! Be polite, ASK permission, when permission is denied, be polite and leave quietly with a smile, not with a hissy fit like a 5 year old.
 
tebeef said:
Just curios but why doesnt he bait and hunt on the land he claims to have permission on in the first place? By his frusterated reply Im guessing its already been discussed and denied.
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That's a very good question. The guy's story doesn't make sense. He hunts deer on the other property but wants to call coyotes on rhs' place and becomes an asshat when he's refused.

Talk to the neighbour. There's some reason why the guy isn't hunting coyotes on the same land that he claims to be hunting deer or he's lying about hunting deer. Very fishy.
 
i wouldnt want anyone like that hunting around my place, he asks nicely, but shows you a real lack of respect when you say no... mention it to your neighbor sometime, he might not even have permission to hunt there.
 
350 Mag said:
In Sask you need permission to hunt within 500 meters of livestock of any kind...I am sure you have similar rules as well.

You did the right thing.

He was a jerk.

If he does anything stupid go to the cops.
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The fella is a moron for acting like he did when you turned him down.

He could of offered to utilize a bow or crossbow, for called in 'yotes, but obviously he's not creative enough in his way of thinking.
 
when I ask permission to hunt on a property I am always polite and reasonable.
If the owner says no I say "thanks anyway and have a nice day" and not in a sarcastic way either. A landowner doesn't even have to give me a reason for denying permission and that's fine.

I wouldn't give this ass permission either based on his behaviour and would let your neighbour know.

Having said that, I also had landowners who had never seen me before and after I ask very politely giving me a very rude and unwarranted response.
I just turn around and leave. I believe in Karma and when I was 4 Mom taught me to treat everyone the way you expect to be treated.

I also had landowners in Alberta ask me to try to shoot varmint as a condition to hunt deer on their land. All parties ended up happy (except some critters maybe :evil:)
 
I would venture to guess that the guy doesn't want to start hammering away at coyotes where he hunts deer. Makes sense to me keeps the deer calmer and gets rid of the the coyotes.

Now that being said he really didn't need to threaten poisoning, a real hunter would have picked up and left knowing that what he was told was good info and moved on to his next plan (hopefully not poison)
 
Best bet would be to have a chat with the land owner next to you, and voice your concerns about the poison deal, and not deal with the Police of MNR at this point, and all togerther if possible.
 
You did the right thing taking down his license plate number.
He was threatening your dogs when he mentioned poison.

Most definately talk to your neighbour, and the MNR.

I have my fill of hunters who tell me I better lock up my animals 'cause they're huntin' on my farm, and that's that.

Asshats like him give hunters a bad reputation, but the issue here is property rights.
 
Depending on what exactly was said the mere threat to kill or injure your dogs would be a CRIMINAL offence. Not that this is a situation where you would want to go that route.

How much land does the neighbour this guy hunts on own? I'd be watching my fence lines ( make sure you are posted ) and having a chat with the neighbour.

Quite a few yotes around here but have never lost a calf to them, but I calve in a yard and run a couple of guard donks. :)

If I was running range maggots, that would be different.

This guy is a disgrace to hunters. Not only in how he treated you , but his INTRUSIVE attitude to the area he was lucky enough to get permission to hunt. Not good enough he gets to hunt it, he is going to change it to suit his hunting by poisoning other species. Worse than the hunters who leave trash in the bush.
 
Wendell said:
Is placing poison for coyotes even legal where you are?
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I don't think poison is legal anywhere....is it?

Guy was being an AH...watch your fence-lines and property for un-authorized access.
Call the MNR or OPP when required. (keep that plate # handy :))
 
All hunter's should remember that it is a privelage to hunt on someone else's property. When you recieve permission be thankful, when you're denied be polite and thankful anyway. Another time the answer may be yes.
 
Big Game said:
All hunter's should remember that it is a privelage to hunt on someone else's property. When you recieve permission be thankful, when you're denied be polite and thankful anyway. Another time the answer may be yes.
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+1. Anyone who responds with a thinly veiled threat to a polite 'no, thanks' from a property owner, is obviously not someone you want to be hunting around your land.
 
Had a chat with my neighbour this afternoon. Turns out he didn't think it was a good idea either, and told the AH that it likely wouldn't fly with me. Using poison was definitely news to him. The lack of deer was also explained, since he let 4 guys take 6 deer from his 25 acre property last fall. I've never seen more than about 7-8 max grazing out in those fields, so that was just poor management on his part. I think he figured the guy would hunt coyotes with a bow from our conversation today. Not sure if that's possible, but I guess it depends on how good you are at bringing them in. I've only ever popped them at distance with .223 or 22/250s. He agreed with me that there's only ever been 1 or maybe 2 'yotes around, and figured if they took down a deer or two that was OK with him, since it would be 1 less deer in his wife's vegetable garden. I'm guessing I've seen the last of this clown. Thanks for all the input from everybody.

One question I have to call MNR on is what you can use on coyotes in this WMU anyway. It's shotgun/ML/bow only for deer, so I don't know if you can even use rifles for 'yotes. I may have special privileges, being a landowner with livestock to protect. I called the cops about 15 years ago, just after we became part of the City of Ottawa, because I had an obviously mangy 'yote running around. Couple of officers showed up and told me that I could have shot it, since protection of livestock superseded municipal discharge of firearms laws. They seemed more interested in chatting up my barn staff, who was wearing cutoffs and a tank top, so maybe I should have inquired elsewhere.
 
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